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      French soldiers died in fighting alongside the US in Afghanistan. It was a deeply unpopular war, but after 9/11 the US invoked NATO article 5, so the French along with other European nations sent young men to die alongside American soldiers.

      I don’t think the freedom fries and “France surrendered” remarks are the problem.

      It’s the “Russians should invade them, and I’ll encourage it.” remarks from the next president.

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        Tens of thousands died defending France in 1940. They didn’t turn tail and run, they were surrounded and cut off from supplies. They fought until it was impossible to fight.

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          Yep I’d love to see how many of the gun-owning cowards in the States would actually stand up and fight if it came to it lol

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    Then France goes bankrupt and, as a result, the monarchy is abolished, given over to an Emperor, unabolished, abolished again, unabolished, abolished, given to the former Emperor’s idiot nephew, and finally finding an actual democracy between the couch cushions.

    19th century France was a trip, and intervening in the American Revolution sorta set it all off.

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      American Revolution was the kickoff, but there were a lot of other things building up for a long time, and they’d have found another way of going bankrupt fighting the English sooner or later.

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      Was a great time, the American and/or French revolution also started nationalism. We had a lot of “fun” with that concept.

      At least the French revolution also brought us the metric system and the decimal clock.

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      Abolished is one way to put it… I suspect Louis had stronger words when it was his turn to meet Madame Guillotine.

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    One of the reasons the french will always be my homebois. There are many, though.

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    When we were on death’s door, when we were needy
    We made a promise, we signed a treaty.
    We needed money, and guns, and half a chance,
    Uhh who provided those funds?

    In return they didn’t ask for land,
    Only the promise that we’d lend a hand

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    Europe: USA help me

    USA: No problem. Who are we fighting against?

    Europe: Russia.

    USA: What I’m saying is this: You have a group on one side and you have a group on the other, and they came at each other with bombs-- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch. But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the good guys-- you just called them the good guys-- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is. I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides – I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say.