I don’t think Musk is the rogue element people think he is. I think he’s as integral a part of the US military-industrial complex as any other US tech billionaire, no different from say Peter Thiel or Eric Schmidt.
They do not. At best, they have the metadata which would let them ID the location of anyone using it, but that is a whole different thing to view the traffic.
The ability to communicate over vast distances is WAY too big of a boon to give to russia… Encryption and ciphers can be added ontop of the connection. Ever heard of a VPN…?
I highly doubt the US intelligence agencies aren’t tapping StarLink. We already know for a fact that they were/are tapping Google and other carriers (if they didn’t already have actual backdoors made for them by the companies). We also know that the intelligence agencies also like to either flip employees or simply have their own people get jobs there and get access. Being honest, for all the bans on using Chinese equipment/devices for fear of spying (even when other governments were already analyzing and finding nothing). I don’t see why any other nation shouldn’t be doing the same for US stuff on their infrastructure/networks.
We are historically not very trustworthy, and have been basically one of the top nations for getting into shit that wasn’t even made by us (along with Israel) like the Stuxnet attack. We accuse other nations of shit while damn sure doing it ourselves, like a cheater that then constantly accuses the other partner of cheating.
Obviously any nation trying to use something like StarLink would be foolish to not use any and all methods for encrypting all traffic.
Why can the NSA do that? Do you know how it works? Because I do. Do you think StarLink traffic would be routed rhrough US-controlled servers to reach Russia? Do you think they can instantly decrypt VPN traffic and not the routing data?
Again, you are assuming everything and know nothing. You are basically (again BASICALLY) claiming a VPN is useless because DNS is insecure … which is true in the sense that DNS still exposes what you are looking at or communicating with generally, but in reference to compromising traffic, it is utterly and completely WRONG.
Even if the NSA targets them. Even if the NSA can crack custom applied encryption that A WORLD POWER would ABSOLUTELY DO, they aren’t cracking it instantly. Even if it were just a few minutes, a few minutes can make a world of difference on the battle field. That’s the difference between a supposedly secret meeting of officers getting blown up, or evacuated before the cruise missile hits.
Why can the NSA do that? Do you know how it works? Because I do. Do you think StarLink traffic would be routed rhrough US-controlled servers to reach Russia? Do you think they can instantly decrypt VPN traffic and not the routing data?
Again, you are assuming everything and know nothing. You are basically (again BASICALLY) claiming a VPN is useless because DNS is insecure … which is true in the sense that DNS still exposes what you are looking at or communicating with generally, but in reference to compromising traffic, it is utterly and completely WRONG.
What the hell does DNS have to do with anything I said?
Even if the NSA targets them. Even if the NSA can crack custom applied encryption that A WORLD POWER would ABSOLUTELY DO, they aren’t cracking it instantly.
NO shit. They’re doing blanket collection and cracking what is pertinent. My point is no matter what you do to stay anonymous and secure online, they can always track it back to you. That’s enough reason for them to plant evidence or just bag you and make something up later. Therefor encryption is inherently useless when the government can violate the rights it pretends to be protecting.
Do you? You seem to fail to realize what a data link is and that different data can be stuffed in to the generic parts, you fucking numpty.
Do you think StarLink cannot send generic data? Do you think it inspects everything it sends to make sure it’s not encrypted? Or does it just route and send the data. You have no fucking clue what you’re even trying to retort.
No, it makes perfect sense to say, “someone gaining billions over here should not be allowed to profit from helping the enemy.”
Why is the concept of treason so fucking hard for people to understand?! “You mad someone’s helping a horrible person doing horrible things?” … YES!!! Why the FUCK aren’t you?!
I don’t think Musk is the rogue element people think he is. I think he’s as integral a part of the US military-industrial complex as any other US tech billionaire, no different from say Peter Thiel or Eric Schmidt.
He’s not a bought agent but a useful greedy moron to them.
I presume that by them you mean the Russian state. This sounds like BlueAnonsense.
Have you considered that the NSA likely has full access to everything that happens on Starlink?
They do not. At best, they have the metadata which would let them ID the location of anyone using it, but that is a whole different thing to view the traffic.
The ability to communicate over vast distances is WAY too big of a boon to give to russia… Encryption and ciphers can be added ontop of the connection. Ever heard of a VPN…?
Russia cannot be given StarLink.
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I highly doubt the US intelligence agencies aren’t tapping StarLink. We already know for a fact that they were/are tapping Google and other carriers (if they didn’t already have actual backdoors made for them by the companies). We also know that the intelligence agencies also like to either flip employees or simply have their own people get jobs there and get access. Being honest, for all the bans on using Chinese equipment/devices for fear of spying (even when other governments were already analyzing and finding nothing). I don’t see why any other nation shouldn’t be doing the same for US stuff on their infrastructure/networks.
We are historically not very trustworthy, and have been basically one of the top nations for getting into shit that wasn’t even made by us (along with Israel) like the Stuxnet attack. We accuse other nations of shit while damn sure doing it ourselves, like a cheater that then constantly accuses the other partner of cheating.
Obviously any nation trying to use something like StarLink would be foolish to not use any and all methods for encrypting all traffic.
They can tap all they want. His post is saying that due to encryption it doesn’t matter.
I just hope they feed the gps coords of Russians using it to Ukraine.
Lol you think your vpn is protecting you from NSA traffic flow analysis?
https://tcf.org/content/report/surveillance-without-borders-the-traffic-shaping-loophole-and-why-it-matters/
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You think that was my claim? Moron.
Why can the NSA do that? Do you know how it works? Because I do. Do you think StarLink traffic would be routed rhrough US-controlled servers to reach Russia? Do you think they can instantly decrypt VPN traffic and not the routing data?
Again, you are assuming everything and know nothing. You are basically (again BASICALLY) claiming a VPN is useless because DNS is insecure … which is true in the sense that DNS still exposes what you are looking at or communicating with generally, but in reference to compromising traffic, it is utterly and completely WRONG.
Even if the NSA targets them. Even if the NSA can crack custom applied encryption that A WORLD POWER would ABSOLUTELY DO, they aren’t cracking it instantly. Even if it were just a few minutes, a few minutes can make a world of difference on the battle field. That’s the difference between a supposedly secret meeting of officers getting blown up, or evacuated before the cruise missile hits.
Namecalling makes you look like the moron.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/may/12/glenn-greenwald-nsa-tampers-us-internet-routers-snowden
What the hell does DNS have to do with anything I said?
NO shit. They’re doing blanket collection and cracking what is pertinent. My point is no matter what you do to stay anonymous and secure online, they can always track it back to you. That’s enough reason for them to plant evidence or just bag you and make something up later. Therefor encryption is inherently useless when the government can violate the rights it pretends to be protecting.
Do you think Russia doesn’t have the internet or something? Do Russians not have cell-phones? What do you think Starlink actually is?
Do you? You seem to fail to realize what a data link is and that different data can be stuffed in to the generic parts, you fucking numpty.
Do you think StarLink cannot send generic data? Do you think it inspects everything it sends to make sure it’s not encrypted? Or does it just route and send the data. You have no fucking clue what you’re even trying to retort.
Russia already has the ability to do everything Starlink provides, the difference is it is a bit more convenient. So saying something like this:
Is weird and acting like Starlink is some kind of cold-war superweapon that we have to keep from Russia makes no sense.
No, it makes perfect sense to say, “someone gaining billions over here should not be allowed to profit from helping the enemy.”
Why is the concept of treason so fucking hard for people to understand?! “You mad someone’s helping a horrible person doing horrible things?” … YES!!! Why the FUCK aren’t you?!