Actually that’s one thing I never had thrown my way. But I usually stick tie everything to class and production, which is material and which they don’t understand. It’s also too ‘technical’ for them to label as idealistic. I also rarely talk about future revolutionary goals, but criticism of the status quo and fairly immediate causes of action.

But their view of ‘realism’ is messed up anyway. Like this acquaintance has always been super against the military, because bourgeois pacifism and they alway saw it as a breeding ground for nazis. Yet somehow, now, we need to pump it full with blood money, swarm Ukraine with weapons, because some hundreds of thousands dying now is somehow a more realistic path towards peace than negotiations.