• Dicska@lemmy.world
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      Orbán is Putin’s butt plug and will be until he dies of old age. As much as I would love my country to stay in the EU, the only way to stop this raging toddler from destroying other kids’ Lego castles is to lock him out of the room.

      The problem is, once the country is out of the EU’s protection, daddy Russia will be happy to raise him an alcoholic, racist scumbag.

      I really don’t know how the country can be saved from sinking even deeper in the mud it finally emerged from in 1989.

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    I wonder what we gave up for Turkey to sign it. Maybe it was enough for Kristersson to celebrate his 60th birthday with a purposefully made confidential bill to taxpayers.

    Funny how his government always seem to transform things that were or should be public to confidential.

    Like the secret electricity support, so the ones who used much electricity when the grid was strained got a cashback. I forget the name but some people apparently had to keep their mansions and fifteen swimmingpools heated. Guess we aren’t equal after all…

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      As best I can tell, nothing. He held it up to be the strong guy for their next election, then let it go after.

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        First we gave out some Kurds, be it right or wrong, then I know there were different opinions regarding our freedom of speech and burning books. And that’s just what the public knows. The real deals are made behind closed doors

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        🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 That doesn’t make sense as we’ve had the same information public for a hundred years before this government

        Edit I reread what I wrote and I misunderstood what you meant. We’re not equal in the burden we had to bear individually, less so anymore with all the secrecy and unofficial meetings with private entities.

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    Honestly I’m surprised at Turkey considering how friendly they’ve been with Russia in the past decade. I really thought they had picked their sides against NATO, but I guess they could see the Russian writing on the wall from all the way over there.

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      Don’t forget the Russian and Ottoman empires shared a border, and had a war the same time France and Prussia had theirs. Turkey is Europe’s defence against Russian expansionism via the Caucasus. Or at least it was - now it’s those brilliant and tough motherfuckers in Georgia holding the fort.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The Turkish parliament has given its long-awaited approval to Sweden’s membership of Nato, bringing the Nordic country significantly closer to joining the western military alliance after months in limbo.

    Three months after Recep Tayyip Erdoğan submitted a bill on approving membership to parliament, MPs voted in favour of ratifying it late on Tuesday night.

    In a letter, he wrote: “I believe that a more intensive dialogue could contribute to reinforcing trust between our countries and institutions thus allowing to further strengthen our political and security arrangements.”

    Sweden applied to join Nato in May 2022, at the same time as Finland, in a historic shift in its security policy prompted by Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in February earlier that year.

    Finland finally joined last year but Ankara pressed Stockholm to toughen its stance on members of the Kurdistan Workers’ party (PKK) based in Sweden, which the US and the EU as well as Turkey deem a terrorist group.

    While the decision is formally up to parliament, Orbán’s tight grip on his ruling Fidesz party means that the ratification, de facto, is in the hands of the prime minister.Hungarian officials have in the past presented different narratives domestically about Sweden’s bid, while insisting to western allies that Budapest would not be last to sign off.A senior European diplomat said: “It is crucial this dossier moves forward sooner rather than later and there are indeed signals all remaining allies understood the importance of having Sweden in Nato as soon as possible.


    The original article contains 685 words, the summary contains 248 words. Saved 64%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

    • Welt@lazysoci.al
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      Steady on. Erdoğan’s Islamifying the place as a populist, undoing Atatürk’s vision. Turkey belongs in the GCC rather than the EU if it’s on its way to theocracy.

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      The EU is not about to let Turkey join, and the main reason is that Turkey don’t really want to.

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          It’s not revoked. It’s stalled. There’s a huge list of things they’d need to do to join, and they basically haven’t completed any of it.

          Cyprus is a major sticking point, along with Erdogan, who while not quite being a dictator in name, is probably only a little way off it.

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      Sweden has generally been pretty supportive of Turkish EU accession. Cyprus is a far bigger issue.

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    Quick, someone call out Hungary’s lack of democracy again! Still time to avoid this shitty alliance. Don’t want to be in an alliance with criminal countries like the US and Turkey.

    Not like Russia is a threat when they can’t even take Poland. We’ve got enough defense with our EU and Nordic treaties.

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        Lol I’m Swedish. It’s possible to be against NATO without being a paid actor. Jävla jänkare är helt korkade.

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          I think he’s American, and has suffered due to their inferior educational system (AU here, nice job negotiating with Turkey’s dictatorship for your own security SE!)

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      They made it an election promise to join NATO. It’s so sus that our own defence has been dismantled for 20 years, and when Russia is flailing we’re rushing through a NATO membership. No public vote on that one.

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        Red army’s stationed in Berlin at the end of WWII, but Sweden doesn’t consider that a big enough threat to join NATO. Russian army is now in eastern Ukraine, which would’ve been deep within the Soviet Union at the end of the WW, and suddenly we have to join NATO to keep safe. You know, protect ourselves against imperialism by joining the chief imperialist block and give the top imperialists access to 17 military bases on our soil. We’ve become so pathetic compared to the swedes from the fifties. They valued true independence, we gargle uncle Sam’s balls instead to feel safe. Sweden was uniquely independent, we’re now in alliance with Turkey and the US. That’s quite a fall from grace and it makes me sad. Like I’m losing what made my country special.

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          Sweden wasn’t as uniquely independent as you think, nor as special. Countries’ leaders act in the country’s interest. The circumstances are different this time - Sweden, like Ireland, was notionally independent in WWII but we all knew whose side they were on, even if non-combatants.

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            Yes. Sweden was somehow on the Nazi’s side first and then the Allies’