1: you get to own your games
2: the graphics are way better
3: you can do other shit with a PC like work or school
4: All games from forever to now are compatible.
5: You can emulate any games from older non-pc systems.
Did I miss anything?
Mods? Unless consoles these days have that too, I’ve admittedly not used console since the ps2.
deleted by creator
I know Skyrim has a limited selection of mods over on Xbox, but it’s really tiny compared to the PC offerings, due to hardware and file size limitations. I think Fallout 4 has some, too?
Nothing on Sony or Nintendo’s side, as far as I’m aware.
On Xbox One at least, Skyrim and Fallout 4 both have 5gb storage caps for mods. True, no SKSE or SkyUI, but you can still get almost every other mod that’s available.
On oldrim I used 30 gigs of mods like a decade ago. 5 gigs seem super low.
At least in my experience, it was my first time really modding anything. I had had access to a PC years ago when I was a small child, and I played stuff like Garry’s Mod where I’d just build crazy contractions (dare I say I got kinda good at it, who knows how much better I’d be now if I was able to keep up with it).
After a while I lost access to the computer, but I still was able to play console games, so that’s what I mainly gamed on for a very long time, up until just a couple years ago when I finally got a PC.
So I’d say if anything, it’s a great introductory to the possibilities of mods to console players, and like me, it may push some to actually get a PC to do more with their games. In all, I’d say it’s a positive thing regardless.
No SKSE either
This reminds me of so many Japanese dev only release their games on Switch because they don’t want people to mod them.
…especially for family-friendly games or something based off popular IP (e.g. SPYxFAMILY).
They are cash-grabs anyway.
Not really, some of them are actually well-crafted and has fun gameplay.
You can choose whichever input methods suit you best. I’ve always been a controller kind of guy. As someone left handed I always struggled with keyboard and mouse setups.
streaming games to other devices too.
you can make your phone into a poor man’s steam deck
I think you missed the biggest one which is PCs don’t have a profit driven life cycle. You update hardware when it no longer suits your need. Not when some predetermined life cycle expires and its time for the brand new thing.
You can also emulate a lot of newer games and they run better than in their native hardware.
playing online games for free and not needing subscriptions is a huge one. these days they try to justify it with attaching free games or some other kind of live service so i don’t discount the value of them nowadays but it’s still mind blowing to me how for almost two generation they got away charging for online play without barely doing anything but being the monopoly man.
the great thing about PC is its flexibility and if you don’t want or need flexibility consoles are a good choice but i think more and more people are appreciating the flexibility PC platforms have.
1: you get to own your games
*Citation needed.
You absolutely do not. Even GOG is just a license to the game.
How is point 1 in favor of PC? A physical console disc gives you far more ownership than a steam game. PC would be equal to consoles, but not better than them, if you exclusively buy games on gog. But then you miss out on most new games.
You don’t own your games on PC, unless you mean gog. Which you likely do not. You have an account and you pay to add games to that account. That is all.
- you usually don’t own your games, you just own a license; they can’t take away a console disk, but they can revoke a digital license
I agree with the rest, and here’s a few more:
- games are typically cheaper because of #4
- lots of form factors - can use controller, kb+m, handheld PC, etc
- repairs are easy - if my PS5 breaks, I need PS5-specific parts; if my PC breaks, I can get anything off the shelf
- streaming is easy peasy (related to your #3) - I don’t stream, but on PC, you just install something and click “go,” on console, you need hardware capture cards and whatnot
- storage is a non-issue - can have multiple TB of space and store every game I own if I want to, whereas I’m stuck with whatever capacity the console comes with
All in all, it’s a way better experience for me, though it is a bit more complicated. It’s hard to beat “plug and play” like with a console.
they can’t take away a console disk,
Technically not but you still only own a license and those walled garden platforms of consoles can easily be used to block you from using that disk for anything meaningful.
You can always play the version shipped with the disk with the game unplugged from the internet.
On PC, you’d have to pirate if a game is taken down.
On PC, you could pirate, but you could also buy DRM free games from GOG.com and keep a copy locally backed up.
It’s also worth noting that optical media will delaminate over time, rendering them unusable.
If you buy DRM free games. you effectively “own” them not in a legal sense, but in a practical sense.
Sure, and that’s only mostly true if you back them up.
That said, I can’t sell a DRM free game, so I don’t really own it like I do with physical media.
Nothing’s stopping you from copying the game onto a flashdrive and selling it to a friend
And it’s only marginally more expensive.
deleted by creator
You don’t own games on Steam. You licence them - at any time they can be removed from your library.
Life/support expectancy between console and PC, PC wins hands down. Consoles release the next $500+ish version every 8ish years where a PC can pretty easily outlive at least 2 generations of console with minor upkeep and maybe some minor upgrades that cost less then the shitty controllers you have to replace every 6-12 months for $50 - $80
Life/support expectancy between console and PC, PC wins hands down. Consoles release the next $500+ish version every 8ish years where a PC can pretty easily outlive at least 2 generations of console with minor upkeep and maybe some minor upgrades that cost less then the shitty controllers you have to replace every 6-12 months for $50 - $80
And they can get ‘downgraded’ into other purposes, such as a childs first PC (take that mf’r apart and make them build it again), or a home server, or a media console.
scout gaming
COVID Lockdown may have helped. PC has finally got a strong grasp on the eastern market over the last couple of years and the companies have followed suit. I think suggesting it’s due to the boom of vtubing may be a bit too specific but there seems to be a trend
The PC is the most important because everything else sucks and if you don’t make a Port of your stuff for it, some pirat will.
Pirates aren’t porting anything. The closest you could say are the decompilation projects, but they weren’t made with pirating in mind.
Pirates would probably just emulate it instead of going to the bother of porting.
Games like BOTW look pretty great in CEMU on a decent PC.
I mean in the end it does the same…
Not really, emulators can look better lol
Play better too.
And yet they are different things with different names.
And yet a non native speaker can mix em up sometimes when they ultimately do the same.
And this is your learning opportunity.
Well thanks PC Gamer, for that unbiased news.
Until GPUs get a sane price again, I’ll stick to my PS5 for anything that I want to look good.
Are there games for which you need a current GPU for to be able to play it with more than acceptable graphics? If you want to turn on all the fancy dongles to maximum, then there might be a few, but realistically, you don’t need that maximum fanciness to be able to enjoy the gameworld.
There’s definitely games where my 1060 really struggles even at minimal graphics. I even had to play Talos Principle 2 on PS5.
It’s rather telling that the most prominent PC exclusives (MMOs, etc) can run on a potato.
The Intel Arc GPUs looked interesting, but the lack of compatibility on older titles is off-putting. AMD lack the raytracing oomph and support isn’t as good as it is for DLSS. PC gaming has thrown all it’s chips in with Nvidia, and now it’s at the mercy of their pricing.
Eh, I game on AMD and it’s totally fine. I don’t use raytracing, but imo that’s a bit of a gimmick anyway and many people on NVIDIA disable it for better performance. FSR is pretty good as well, and it works in games that don’t support DLSS.
You can get a good AMD card for $300-400, and if you play a decent amount of older games (i.e. more than a year old), you’ll probably save a ton on games and that purchase will pay back for itself pretty quickly.
In fact, an upper mid-tier GPU from AMD will probably look better on average vs your PS5, especially on higher resolutions.
The 1060 is a 3 generations older mid tier card, released almost 8 years ago. Is it the 3gb or 6gb version? 3gb will be very gimped by now. If you want to keep playing demanding 3d games, then at some point you have to upgrade. I don’t think you need an overpriced current gen Nvidia cards to enjoy any modern title, but 3 generations might be pushing it a bit 😉
If you want to stick to Nvidia and want a reasonably priced option, then I would look for a second hand rtx 3060-12gb.
And yet still the third most popular card according to the Steam hardware survey.
Only the 1650 (similar spec to 1060) and 3060 above it.
I was hoping the 4060 would be the new mid tier go to card, giving good results at a good price, but Nvidia want the new normal to be a 4070 or higher.
By this point 4K screens are not some extravagance. They’re standard. You can’t even buy a modern TV less than that. PC gamers should not be accepting the price they have to pay to get what “lol potato console hurdur” gamers get out of the box.
The gtx 1650 only has 4gb ram, I wouldn’t call that similar to a 1060, I call it worse :). It’s an entry level + 2 generation older card, it’s going to be good enough for many titles still, especially indy ones, but new games that push graphics to new limits are just not going to work. Even when it was new, it was only really suitable for 1k gaming with compromises in the graphic settings.
Tbh, I don’t get why you’re so set on getting an Nvidia card. Unless you’re into vr or ai, amd and intel really aren’t bad choices. And since all current gen consoles are using AMD GPUs, all game engines + fancy games will be optimized for AMD gpus anyhow.
