• OttoVonNoob@lemmy.ca
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    Paradox of tolerance at work here. The Fascist’s broke the social contract of tolerance, therefore we should not tolerate them…

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      No it’s not, and bad faith arguments like these are why what’s upvoted on forums isn’t indicative of the real world.

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        If you think about it, making the fascist salute illegal is inherently more fascist than the salute itself. The salute is a symbol of one particular regime, regulating political speech on the other hand…

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    It’s an ideology that calls for the extermination of those deemed “undesirable”. It’s very existence is a “risk to public order”

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    It’s really just all held together by such a thin thread isn’t it? The hate has never gone away, it just goes out of style from time to time.

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    I hate it so much how the article calls it “the Roman salute”. ROMANS NEVER ACTUALLY USED THAT SALUTE. Romans using it is most likely just something that people made up in 18th century France. IT’S. NOT. ROMAN.

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    Fascist salute never a risk to public order
    - Italy, 2027

    Fascist salute now required to maintain public order
    - Italy, 2030

  • SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Then some other people start greeting officials by holding a finger under the nose and the court goes bananas

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The ruling means that the gesture, also known as the Roman salute, is not a crime if performed at events akin to a recent rally in Rome that provoked an outcry.

    “The decision of the cassation court establishes that the Roman salute is not a crime unless there is a concrete danger of the reconstruction of the fascist party, as provided by Article 5 of the Scelba law, or there are concrete aims of racial discrimination and violence, as provided by the Mancino law,” Domenico Di Tullio, lawyer for two of the defendants, told the Italian press.

    The court’s ruling comes after a chilling video emerged of hundreds of men making fascist salutes during an event in Rome in early January marking the 46th anniversary of the killing of three militants from the youth wing of the now defunct Italian Social Movement (MSI), a neofascist party founded after the second world war which eventually morphed into Brothers of Italy, the party led by prime minister Giorgia Meloni.

    The annual gathering takes place outside what used to be MSI’s headquarters on Via Acca Larentia, in the east of the Italian capital.

    “Of course, we will continue making the Roman salute,” Luca Marsella, Casapound’s spokesperson, told the Ansa news agency.

    The Rome event was condemned by opposition parties, who called for Meloni’s government to ban neofascist groups, as well as Forza Italia, a partner in her coalition.


    The original article contains 389 words, the summary contains 235 words. Saved 40%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    This happened during a historical commemorative event (for an episode happened in the 70s where some people who belonged to a far right group were killed and the perpetrators were never processed) which happens every year and nobody ever cared about it. Suddenly I’m 2024 everyone is pointing fingers.

    Italy is what it is, everyone here who feels superior and judge should look at their own country: all Europe (East and West, South and North) is leaning towards the far right except Spain, so don’t feel so superior. Even not agreeing with any f#scist regime, being told that we are a “sh#t country” or other things written in the comments here is not pleasant at all.

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      Just by our fingertips, the Gov. is a minority coalition with the far right being a majority.

      I hope this is the end of the grounds they have made up and we can shift back to the left, but man…uuuuugh

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        Agree… but some innovation is needed in the opposition because the current left wing parties in Italy have betrayed their electoral basis quite a few times in the past and people (workers, middle class, the majority of the population in practice, except high bourgeoisie and the ultra-rich) don’t feel represented any more.

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          6 months ago

          Copy and paste to the rest of the western world.

          Absolutely need some clear direction other than fear (of many topics) in leadership, the status quo isn’t working for the majority anymore.