• redcalcium@lemmy.institute
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    11 months ago

    Piracy and Star Trek communities had a lot more success migrating their communities over to lemmy compared to other communities. Not 100% success as many opposed to the migration (I remember seeing big drama on r/piracy back then, and lesser drama on r/startrek), but a good chuck of them was successfully migrating to lemmy.

    Edit: wait, I didn’t realized it’s @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com himself that made this post. Man, I don’t know how you’re able keep going with encouraging redditors to migrate to lemmy with how redditors that stay on r/piracy was treating you. I say good riddance! Your hard work paid off!

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        Bro, this community rocks, I didn’t ditch Reddit completely but god all the time I head to /r/piracy are the same repeated memes all over again, here we have actual discussion.

        As /r/piracy was one of my favorite subreddits, if not the favorite I always was scared Reddit would vanish it… Well not anymore, I am glad Lemmy happened so we have this awesome community, possibly forever.

        BTW my lemm.ee account was created due to my prior lemmy.world blocking this community, I know they backtracked that decision, but I am so comfortable here that I didn’t even bother to go back.

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          Lol, for me it was similar, I had a few things I didn’t like about lemm.ee so I ditched my account there and went here by accident (well just by searchimg and it fulfilling all my needs and a ton more things), ended up liking this instance a ton so it became my daily driver

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        My memory is hazy, but during the subreddit protest, he was somehow removed from moderator list (did the admins got involved?), and the sub reopened shortly after. From then on, any thread about migration to Lemmy is full of people roasting each other. It was awful. No idea why those who remains were so vehemently opposed to migration of a piracy community. It’s not like you can openly discuss piracy stuff on Reddit without risking removal by the admins.

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          Not to sound too tinfoil-hatty, but I wouldn’t be surprised if some of that was sock puppet accounts. When you don’t want people to unify and leave, just start a flame war!

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      How did redditors treat him? I was subscribed to the sub and I have no idea who db0 is. I recently learned that db0 owns the lemmy.dbzer0.com instance but I don’t know anything beyond that.

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    Back in my day we had Netflix and nothing else, and it was good. Nowadays I can’t even watch Looney Tunes on fucking Max because they were delisted. Please someone explain to these execs why they are losing money. They’re dying.

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      I got into datahording pirated media out of spite, youthful angst and complete lack of funds. Now i literally consider it an act of preservation.

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          I did the same, gotta keep an eye out for good deals. Last year i got a 18tb ultrastar HDD for $40 cad from an auction ($10+$30 shippibg to RMA)

          Also shucked a 12tb Ultrastar out of a external enclosure

          At one point I got 3 used 1tb drives for free out of an old business server

          Im up to about 40tb of storage across all my drives now

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      Because of the price hike by all the streaming services, pirating never felt better. I can watch anything I want, any time, dont have to wait for my monthly sub to expire to switch to another provider and than watch what onley they provide. Maybe if pirscy numbers rise they will do somthing that helps the consumer.

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      To be fair I can’t find a decent collection Looney Tunes on the high seas either.

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    I had not realised this before, that there are multiple versions of the same community on different instances. For example there are multiple meme communities on different instances.

    I wonder how this affects engagement considering that although there might be one large community there are several smaller ones. Perhaps not everyone assumes that there’s a larger community on a different instance.

    Also how does this affect niche communities where it may be that due to high fragmentation these communities might seem unusually small.

    Further, if these niche communities remain unusually smaller than there Reddit counter parts would users leave do to perhaps lack of content versus their Reddit counter parts.

    This is kind of a chicken and egg - users migrate or engage the more activity there is and it may lead to discouragement if their first impression is that there isn’t content.

    I don’t know I’m probably rambling and don’t know what I’m talking about.

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      The same is true in reddit. You have multiple communities effectively about the same thing. Eventually one settles into the “primary” one

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        11 months ago

        I wonder if there shouldn’t be a way of federating duplicate groups after the fact so one doesn’t have to “win”, they just all combine as one.

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          I thought Lemmy already had a solution for this that overlaps communities with the same name

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          I’ve had exactly this same thought. Doing it client-side seems easy enough, it’s just like creating a multi-reddit and then when you want to post you have to choose which instance to post in.

          The hard part is probably that these communities will have different moderators and different rules which complicates things substantially.

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      It’s an issue that could be solved within lemmy where communities with the same name should be able to merge and show each others content.

      It also happens when users join and pick the largest community at the time, which may be overtaken later but the user will never know unless they often go looking

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        It’s an issue that could be solved within lemmy where communities with the same name should be able to merge and show each others content.

        This is bad idea though, unless if it’s an optional feature that the users themselves choose to activate (e.g similar to multireddit, but you don’t have to manually curate the communities yourself). Imagine the same community from two opposing instances (e.g. blahaj and hexbear) somehow got merged by default. That would be an absolute shitshow. Also, how would moderation work? Those communities often have different moderation rule. Can mods from one community remove posts from another community with the same name? This would also be an absolute shitshow.

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            Nah. Make the mods battle in a gladiatorial arena for my enjoyment. Winner get the userbase.

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          This should be an optional feature for moderators. Mods from both communities must virtually shake hands and merge their communities into one. They could tweak how cross-moderation works. If one side becomes unmanageable, the other side can cut the line and split the community again.

          Genuinely sounds like a solid idea to me. There are some lingering questions - both technical and non-technical - but they’re fairly small. Such as:

          1. How easy or hard is it to implement?
          2. When communities merge, do their histories merge too or do only new posts show up to both? (My opinion: only new posts)
          3. When a merged community splits, do both sides keep a full copy of the posts from the time they were merged, or do they delete the posts that were posted to the other community? (My opinion: keep the history)
          4. Do they have to match everything - community description, exact wording of rules, graphics, exact name, etc - or do they just need to show each other’s posts? (My opinion: just show each other’s posts. It should basically be an automatic cross-post.)
          5. Should Lemmy software make this apparent to users, or should the responsibility lie on the mods to make the announcement? This question could be asked separately for merge events, split events, and the merged steady state - i.e. should Lemmy show some info about it while the communities are merged. (My opinion: I think especially for splits, it’s important to let the users know especially if the mods want to hide it. The other cases I think it could be left up to the mods, although it would do no harm if Lemmy let you know which communities are merged)

          My opinion to those questions is what I think is the “right” way to do it, but I also suspect my opinions to 2-4 are the easiest to implement.

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          Aliasing would work here. Allow a user to create an alias “meme” community that contains multiple meme based comunities. So when a user submits content to the alias the home server can just publish it on all communities. This is only user visible, so the community itself doesn’t change… but from a user perspective you see more content under the same alias. Posts made this way could also have some additional Metadata to condense them together when you see the same post on multiple communities.

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    I for one didn’t know about Lemmy until the redit piracy community moved here.

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      Ah, I thought that might be the case. I did check that lemmy.world communities are listed to ensure it’s not hiding them when I checked and I saw some.

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    I used to be part of the memes community but it sucked so much ass that I just returned to reddit

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      there’s a lot of Linux memes… don’t get me wrong I’ve had a chuckle at a couple Linux memes before but tbh most of the time it’s just a reference to Linux and they forget to include a joke.

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        Those people are weird. I’m saying this as someone that has a Steam Deck and runs Proxmox and Opensense and 13 VMs and containers on my network, so you know I understand the value: Linux should never be prescribed to Normies. This is not the year of the Linux desktop. It might be your year of the Linux desktop, and that’s great! But to blanket prescribe it to everyone with a slight problem in Mac or Windows with the phrase “Just Use Linux!:tm:” like all of their problems will go away if you just move to a new OS is the most asinine, fanboy shit I’ve ever heard of. And it doesn’t have anything to do with “skill issues” or whatever, it’s that normal people don’t fucking care, just want shit to work

        But I get it, we’re in the fediverse, where people have a higher proclivity for open source, open protocol, open hosting, open bars, etc. But if you’re reading this and getting upset, please understand there’s a whole lot of other shit to care about, and someone’s choice of OS has as much to do with you as their sexual preferences: none at all.

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          I think if somebody could benefit from it, I’m going to recommend it. Taking the attitude of “You’re a normie, so obviously you can’t appreciate Linux like I do” is condescending.

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            It’s not that I don’t think they can understand or appreciate it.

            Think of it like this: coffee snobs can spend all day explaining to you the intricacies of the chemistry, the way the beans are grown, the way you grind them and the way you distribute them and the way you boil the water and pour it over or French press or whatever.

            But at the end of the day, I just want a decent cup of coffee, I’m not picky. I don’t care. I understand what the coffee snob is trying to explain, I just don’t care.

            In the same sense, a regular person can grasp Linux perfectly well. I can explain to them all day the benefits on open source and having ownership of your OS and full control over what packages end up on your machine and the g-g-goodness of a decent package manager. But at the end of the day, they’re not picky. They don’t care. They understand what I, a tech snob, am trying to say, they just don’t care.

            The same way they may have a hobby or job in medicine or gardening or construction or whatever, they have things they care about that aren’t Linux, and there are millions of things in the world a person can care about. But a person that believes the thing they care about is more important than what other people care about is just fucking insufferable, and constantly telling others they should “Just Use Linux” is no different than a stereotypical vegan trying to get everyone to go vegan or a craft beer snob using it as their only personality trait or a gun nut that actually just has a snuff fetish or that person that constantly tells you “do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior”, except in this case, your Lord and Savior is just Linus Torvalds.

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              constantly telling others they should “Just Use Linux” is no different than a stereotypical vegan trying to get everyone to go vegan or a craft beer snob using it as their only personality trait

              Okay, wow. So what you’re saying is actually much worse than what I originally thought. You believe that saying “Torturing animals is wrong” is the same as saying “Craft beer is better than mass-produced beer”.

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      Thanks hexbear. If you’re from one of the bullying crowd, then the feeling’s mutual :P

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    I just want to say db0 thanks for pythorhead!! definitely made my bot a bit easier to write.

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      It might not seem much, but God Bless You (with the caps) for posting these. You couldn’t be more on point.