I almost wish everyone hadn’t defederated from hexbear so that we had more stories of the mental gymnastics justifying continues support of Putin after he banned being gay.
Lemm.ee still has hexbear. The toxicity is the same as it ever was, going strong
lemm.ee has hexbear, and I can feel the admin writhing while he allows them to persist - even after they banned me entire for “capitalist apologia”, “Genocide denial” and “Pro-zionist Lib , Get f*cked Ben Hazir !!!” - all of which would classify as the crime of defamation.
But, at the same time, I wouldn’t have those bullshit definitions if I didn’t face them head on and call them out for their bullshit, using open modlogs where they themselves can’t hide.
Yup, Lemm.ee’s aversion to defederating in general is why it’s my main account.
“Whatabout the US??? Critical support for Putin’s Ukrainian genocide!”
“Don’t call it genocide! He just wants Russian #landback”
Turns out tankies are actually just as pro-genocide of indigenous people as the far-right are, so long as it’s Russia or China doing it.
Which is, of course, doubly insane considering that Russia isn’t even run by the Russian Communist Party anymore.
Enemy of my enemy logic, basically. There are people who have such a disdain for the west that they will lionize any political figures who also hate the west, no matter how contradictory their stated ideals are.
It’s worse than that. They’re totally amoral. They can’t see beyond their stupid idea of the way they think the world should be. They’re pro-genocide when it benefits their ideology. I haven’t heard much cheering on of Israel from Tankies right now, but if Putin or Xi suddenly allied with them? They’d be begging the Israelis to bulldoze more Palestinian homes with people inside of them.
I don’t think there is anything critical about their support.
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Defederating doesn’t serve anyone’s interest. If you don’t like a community or a server, block them. Let the rest of us decide for ourselves.
Some of us prefer the Fediverse to look a little less like 4chan and pigs shitting on their own balls, and a little more like literally anything else. It’s the same reason why that one alt-right instance was defederated by just about everyone.
Defederation is absolutely a valid tool to deal with spam instances. It’s less of a valid tool for dealing with voices and opinions you don’t like.
Unfortunately, sometimes it can be hard to differentiate between the two.
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Agreed. That’s why I’m on lemm.ee
Just cause the USSR wasn’t as bad as the US claimed doesn’t mean it was as good as the USSR claimed. Praising Stalin implies that the good he did outweighs his death toll
Did he even write theory? I mean, Lenin and Trotsky did but did Stalin?
Stalin did some writing, but depending on which tankie you ask, it’s either REVOLUTIONARY AND ASTOUNDING WORK THAT IS UNFAIRLY OVERLOOKED, or just verbose rehashing of Lenin with an (extra) dash of authoritarianism.
I believe his contribution was the idea that a dictatorship of the prolitariate is untenable, and that the state needs a single leader in order to achieve Marxism.
Sounds like tankies will love it and Marx would have hated it
He did. It contradicts basic tenants of Marxism, but he did write theory.
Edit: tenets. That’s embarrassing. Thanks.
*tenets
Unless you mean someone was paying rent.
Stalin did a lot. But most of all he did killing of innocent people.
I read this as demonetization and was thoroughly confused.
Stalin was cancelled
Stalin would almost certainly be demonetized on YouTube if he made a channel.
You see, communism, in theory, is great. The biggest problem is that it requires a benevolent authority to determine what is provided based on what is needed and wanted.
This is a problem because usually communist countries are structured at authoritarian, where the head of state, a person, usually some guy, is in charge of such things, generally with the help of those in the government. Being human and innately flawed and selfish, all communist systems thus far, seem to follow the same trend of exploitation and indentured servitude for the majority of the populous, meanwhile the “upper class”, mainly the elite and the person’s that make up the government live in luxury. More for them and the bare minimum for everyone else.
If this human factor problem could be resolved, then communism would be a great system. Everyone shares in the wealth and success of their countrymen. But since people are the cornerstone of any government, the system will always be prone to exploitation of the people.
As for Stalin specifically, I don’t see him or his actions as notably different than any other communist dictator. They are all equally terrible people for very different human rights crimes.
I like the idea of communism, but I wouldn’t trust any single person to be in charge… I wouldn’t even trust a coalition of people to run it. It would need the involvement of enough people from the population from all different walks of life to essentially vote on policy changes constantly in order to ensure that no individual or group of individuals is unfairly benefiting from the situation, which, that, in and of itself, would be a nightmare to try to put together, manage, coordinate, and abide by.
Capitalism under democracy isn’t a picnic, but at least there’s enough responsibility imposed on the system by the population that is being governed, that any exploitation is generally slowed at least, or eliminated at best (often the former and not the latter).
I… have a lot to say and not enough energy left to say it.
I would suggest that you’re conflating communism with Marxism-Leninism, which is a common mistake, since the SovUnion spent a good 70 years trying to make them synonymous (and their capitalist enemies being more than happy to assist), and that you should look into non-ML systems.
Your main critique is the same reason capitalism doesn’t work, eventually money begets power which buys up competition, markets get cornered and it turns into cronyism.
I genuinely don’t think state-communism is possible without deep corruption and exploitation, or humans not being in charge. 100-odd people in a commune working together can make it work together, but then you’re just easy pickings for bandits/gangs, or state violence from outside conventional forms of government.
Inflate the population and then all sorts of sociological problems crop up that require intra-system violence/coercion to prevent the whole system crumbling down when everyone wants to be a grief councilor or artist, but all these mfs need to eat so a lot of somebodies are working the fields against their will.
The ills of capitalism are obvious to those living under it, but talk to someone who lived in the USSR and they’re very likely not charitable about the government they lived under either.
Could we develop an AI to be our communist overlord?
Please no.
exactly the points i always make. at the moment, our best shot is a democratic society with well-regulated capitalism (be it by workers unions, trade limitations like the japanese car import limits in the US, and things like universal healthcare and monetary aid for unemployed people)
I’ve been to Cuba. I’ve never seen such a shit show in my life. There were still wealthy and the large majority were dirt poor. Police everywhere. Military everywhere. Havana smelled horrible and there were massive food shortages.
That said the people were friendly. They talked how they wish they could go to America but they can’t.
It was sad. My polish friends described polish communism the same way and they were fairly high up in the party. As soon as they had the chance to defect they did.
Capitalism under a democracy is pretty much a picnic to everyone who went through communism. Fuck this commie shit!
Funny, because data shows almost the exact opposite. Conditions in Ex-Soviet countries were worse for decades after the collapse, and some of them still haven’t returned to pre-collapse levels. The majority of people in the majority of former USSR republics hold positive memories of the Soviet Union, and majorities even believe that life was better when the Union was around.
I don’t know where in my post you thought I was in support of communism in general beyond the idealistic concept of what it could be. In every way, it is a shit show mainly because of the people that are making the decisions.
In no way am I advocating for communism over capitalism/democracy. I’m just giving an analysis from a fairly neutral viewpoint.
This is beside the point but also fuck Trotsky. Trotsky’s basic idea consisted of applying military methods in the economic field and of turning the entire population of Russia into a vast army of labour, destroying the trade unions and forcing the workforce into jobs they could not leave without the permission of high authorities. Any shirking of duty or unauthorized absence from work was to be punished on the same basis as desertion from the army. Fuck that guy.
But also fuck capitalism. It’s horrific.
The problem is that so many people can’t see that there are any shades of grey between Trotskyist communism and free market capitalism. Like it has to be one absolute or the other. Such bizarre black-and-white thinking.
It bugs me that this is using Futurama people. I don’t believe any of them have ever said the word demonization.
Or would have a strong opinion on Stalin, being so far in the Future.
There is no misunderstanding giving Lavrentiy Beria power.
90% of these “no amount of good offsets the bad” types are Trump supporters waiting for him to cancel elections. 😂
