• andyburke@fedia.io
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    4 months ago

    Putin got Ukraine invaded, I don’t care what the US or anyone else did.

    Putin is the one who invaded another country.

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      4 months ago

      @andyburke I totally agree with you tho. Putin and his enablers in Russia chose to invade Ukraine. It is 100% on him and them.

      @ikidd and I are just speculating on some of the factors in his decision to do that.

      Life is a complex tapestry. It’s not just one or two people making decisions in a complete void.

      I mean if you’re old like me you can remember back when Gorbachev was trying to transition to democracy and the CIA jumped in to kingmake Yeltsin and his unregulated market, ushering in the rise of unchecked oligarchy that put Putin in power in the first place.

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        4 months ago

        This is why Putin is popular: he kicked the Global North neocolonialists out of the country.

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          4 months ago

          Which by all indications was something he didn’t actually want to do in the first place. It’s just the west wasn’t ready to give up exploiting the people of the former USSR. If Putin allowed that to continue he would have likely lost his power just as Yeltsin had.

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      4 months ago

      Jesus, the idea that the CIA being somewhere, even doing the bad shit they always do, would somehow justify invading a country?

      As a US citizen, we need fewer things that justify invading counties, not more, for fuck’s sake.