• freagle@lemmygrad.ml
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      10 months ago

      I ask this a lot, but why prefix fascist with Christo? ALL European fascism has always been Christian and explicitly so. It’s an inheritance from the Holy Roman Empire that dominated Europe and engaged in ethnic cleansing in the name of God. It’s the same Christian Manifest Destiny that genocide the indigenous in the western hemisphere. It’s the same Christianity that led to an explicit policy of rape by the Spanish all over Latin America to breed out the unclean blood and save as many souls as possible. It’s never NOT been Christian.

      Just call it what it is. It’s fascism. It’s the same fascism.

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        10 months ago

        Because the average person doesn’t know the direct ties between Christianity and Nazism, so it’s a good tool to catch them up to speed.

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          10 months ago

          But it sounds like it’s somehow different from regular fascism when you qualify it with a prefix.

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            10 months ago

            It’s the first step towards realizing “oh god, ALL fascism is christofascism”

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          10 months ago

          You mean fasco-christianty? As in some Christianity is fascist but not all Christianity? That’s not the point. The point is that all fascism so far has been Christian. Qualifying fascism by saying this fascism is Christo fascism makes it seem like it’s somehow different from regular fascism

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        I mean…you kinda said it there. European fascism can trace its lineage to European Christian kings, empires, and popes. But that’s fascism born of Europe. As others have said fascism has been and is practiced elsewhere and with different religious and cultural influences.

        Christo is merely an aesthetic modifier. It tells you what surface level flavor of fascism to expect. Remember that Nazis used language and themes of socialism in their aesthetic as well. It’s why we still refer to them as Nazis and not solely fascists.

        Though I understand your point. Why not call a christo-fascist and a Nazi the same thing. You certainly can; no one’s going to stop you. At its core fascism is always the same malignant stage of capitalistic rot. It’s practitioners will use whatever aesthetics they wants. Whatever works. Some may find it useful to describe the aesthetic quality of one fascism to expose its core similarities to other instances of fascism.

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      10 months ago

      No they don’t. Biden isn’t anyone’s first pick, but he’s hands-down better than the alternative.

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        Y’all keep saying that but I have yet to see any of you point any actual material difference between Trump’s presidency vs during Biden’s presidency.

        What changed after the transition from Trump to Biden except rhetoric? As far as I know, oppressed minorities kept having their rights taken away 1 by 1 the same as before, police kept being over funded the same as before, migrants from the southern border kept being detained in literal concentration camps at the border the same as before, things kept getting more financially difficult for the average American every day the same as before, big polluter corporations kept polluting without consequences the same as before, the military budget kept getting ramped up every year the same as before, what is different in the real world outside the clown-show that is your political system? Where the fuck does that “not good but definitely better” goes when you stop going by the words of these known serial liars for to seconds and take a peak at what as changed in the actual lives of the American people?

        The only difference I see is that the Republicans is taking an active approach and pass laws directly whereas the Democrats is more passive and like to let the Republicans and other far right parties pass laws while standing there awkwardly and pretending they can do nothing about it.