• nekandro
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    The survival of the Ukrainian state shouldn’t really matter to the people living in other countries, right? So long as civilians are harmed as little as is reasonable in war, it’s just going back to the old ages where monarchs would fight while peasants would do work. We literally already know how Ukraine would be treated under Russia: we can look to Crimea as an example. Crimea is operating basically as you would expect a normal state to operate. The collapse and surrender of the Ukrainian state wouldn’t really impact people’s lives.

    In contrast, the collapse of the Gaza Strip would displace millions and lead to mass starvation and disease.

    Puts things into perspective.

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      Mass torture of civilians in Bucha, Kherson and Mariupol

      Not impacting people’s lives.

      Russian leadership, politicians and media openly calling for the extermination of Ukrainian identity.

      Perspective.

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        Might want to look a little closer into Bucha… Look at the actual evidence that came out of Bucha, not Western commentary on it (which, as we know from Gaza, tends to be unreliable).

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        Ukraine had identity even as a member of the USSR. That’s why they were the Ukrainkan Soviet Socialist Republic and not the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic. Russian leadership is calling for the end of Ukrainian nationalism as an element of Ukrainian identity. Pick up a Russian language dictionary, maybe?

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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          Ukraine was literally created out of whole cloth by USSR. Learn some history so you don’t make a clown of yourself in public.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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              Ukraine was created because nationalists of a state that didn’t exist were acting up. Yup, that totally makes sense.