• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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    1 year ago

    Firstly, that’s not what you said before.

    Firstly, that’s exactly what I said before.

    “the system necessitates consumerism because companies have the constant need to sell goods to continue to stay in business”

    I described the exact mechanism that results in capitalism necessitating consumerism here.

    Now you’re saying that consumerism is an outcome of capitalism which implies that consumerism depends on capitalism. You’ve reversed the direction of the dependency.

    What you’re doing here is known as sophistry.

    Secondly, you’re wrong. Consumerism being an outcome of capitalism is not necessary. Likely but not necessary. And to ram the point home: “likely” and “necessary” are two very different concepts.

    Secondly, I am right because that’s precisely what we observe in practice everywhere capitalism has ever been tried. Again, because the mechanics of capitalism directly select for this. Companies that embrace consumerism outcompete companies that don’t because they sell more things which is the fitness function of the capitalist system.

    And it’s clear that this lack of rigour in communication reflects a lack of rigour in your thinking.

    The only thing that’s clear here is that you don’t understand basic concepts like selection pressures, and given that you’ve got no business questioning the rigour of other people’s thinking. I gave you a clear explanation of why capitalism necessitates consumerism, and repeatedly explained the mechanics of the system to you.

    Despite all your bleating here, you’ve yet to produce any coherent counterpoint to anything I’ve said. That’s what actually shows lack of logic and rigour in your own thinking.

    To sum up, you’re a troll who is incapable of producing a coherent argument to support your own position, and there is no value attempting to have any further discussion with you.

    I suggest that you spend a bit more time working on your critical thinking skills instead of making a clown of yourself here.

    Bye.

    • rah@feddit.uk
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      1 year ago

      Wow.

      What you’re doing here is known as sophistry.

      You didn’t address my criticism. What you’ve said here is equivalent to “NO U!”

      Take care now.