• queermunist she/herEnglish
    51·
    1 year ago

    Or would social obligation simply be set by the collective, rather than the whims of a ruling class?

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        That means there has to be active effort to override it.

        That, too, would be creating and enforcing a standard. Haha culture wins! culture always winnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnns!

      • queermunist she/herEnglish
        31·
        1 year ago

        I don’t want to smell other people’s human stink.

        Does that make me a reactionary? 🙄

              • queermunist she/herEnglish
                21·
                1 year ago

                I’m reminded of the fact there was a period in Western history where they believed bathing was unhealthy and would let “bad airs” into your skin because you washed off all of the filth that protects you from miasma. Humans are sometimes really gross.

                • Magician [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  3·
                  1 year ago

                  I was more talking about how racism and reactionary politics in general can be couched in conversations about hygiene and aesthetics.

                  Showering and bathing are perfectly fine. It’s just a lot of people consider dread locks as dirty and use that as an excuse to treat Black workers differently and/or pay them less.

                • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  2·
                  1 year ago

                  That’s mostly an ahistorical meme. afaik the only historical basis is a brief period where public bath houses were shut down in parts of europe because there was plague going around. They shut the bath houses down because it was somewhere people congregated in large numbers, not because they thought bathing was bad for you. There may have been some quack doctors here and there, but for the most part Europeans have thought bathing was the coolest thing since the Romans turned up and introduced the idea of municipal bath houses. As far as I know folks mostly tried to get a real bath at least once a week when they could, and have always washed at least their hands, mouths, and faces if they couldn’t manage more than that.,