• @FaceDeer
    link
    English
    311 months ago

    And also based on it making total sense for Russia to have done it, and no sense at all for anyone else to have done it.

    • @CarlMarks@lemmygrad.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      -311 months ago

      It also “made sense” to most Americans that Iraq had WMDs. Colin Powell even said so, and he was greatly respected despite his participation in covering up the My Lai Massacre.

      • @FaceDeer
        link
        English
        211 months ago

        A bunch of whataboutism that has no relevance to the subject at hand.

        • @CarlMarks@lemmygrad.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          211 months ago

          Accusations of whataboutism are a thought-terminating cliché that, ironically, usually just help the accuser avoid engaging with a critical argument.

          The relevance here is that using “it sounds right to me” to decide whether a media narrative is true will lead a person to make big mistakes. And I am criticizing the general lack of media criticism in this thread.

          • Tretiak
            link
            English
            6
            edit-2
            11 months ago

            Removed by mod

            • @unnecessarily
              link
              English
              511 months ago

              Am I crazy or do most people call whataboutism “pointing out hypocrisy” and consider it a normal human reaction to… being confronted with hypocrisy

              • @PolandIsAStateOfMind
                link
                English
                1
                edit-2
                11 months ago

                I guess that depends on conditions. It can be just deflection and it can be pointing out of important context.

                For example current situation: USA (and UA since the maidan attack false flag) have long history of trying to manufacture consent for coups, wars etc, with the newest uncovered example being the Nordstream attacks. So to point that out is pretty important with yet another case of suspicious attack (also not even the first such case in that war) which is immediately being pushed without any confirmation whatsoever on basis sometimes going as far as just “Russia evil”.

                But the facedeer when pointed out that it’s relevant just said “whataboutism” as if that was completely separate event in another galaxy. This is the real “whataboutism” as fallacy.