• michaelrose
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    9 months ago

    Yes. Every man ever views a relationship as a ladder with sex or at the top. Men don’t date without expecting to progress towards sex.

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      9 months ago

      What about asexuals?

      What about men that have respect for their SO and don’t see sex as the final goal? I mean, stay with the same person long enough and that part of the relationship will not be as important after a while, does it means the relationship is dead to the man? Because I can’t explain why people stay together for decades then.

      Don’t most women have the same expectation that entering a love relationship with someone will lead to a physical relationship at some point?

      You’re talking as if women didn’t have sexual desires and… Well… Maybe you don’t, but your experience isn’t the majority’s.

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        9 months ago

        What about asexuals?

        Nothing at all. We don’t exist. Even if we did exist we certainly wouldn’t be plotting to invade Denmark. Shh…

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            8 months ago

            Agreed fellow allosexual, Sex IS indeed OP.

            … What’s that? They said OPSEC? The fuck is an OPSEC? Some new part of the queer alphabet soup that I haven’t heard of?

            Sorry, that little skit played out in my head after reading your reply. It’s a weird thing when your intrusive thoughts turn to shitposting. I feel like that person on a leash meme where the thing I’m trying to control is a coked up shitpost tulpa.

            • HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org
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              8 months ago

              It’s alright, seems you may have been missed.

              OPSEC = OPerational SECurity.

              Anyway Denmark has been shelved for the time being.

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        9 months ago

        You’re talking as if women didn’t have sexual desires and…

        I didn’t say they didn’t . I’m not sure why you would think that.

        What about asexuals?

        The overwhelming majority of men are neither gay nor asexual. My statement is generally correct.

        What about men that have respect for their SO and don’t see sex as the final goal?

        It’s either the final goal or its on the way there. Young men want sex. Sexual tension is a factor even if neither he nor she sees it as a likely thing. Failing to understand that is liable to lead to failing to apprehend human behavior which often makes no sense if we remove such tension. Men don’t just do things for love they do things for imaginary hypothetical love neither party believes will ever happen. Watch people interact sometime.

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          I didn't say they didn't . I'm not sure why you would think that.

          Well you certainly don’t talk like your believe that women are capable of seeing sex as something to expect from their relationship!

          My statement is generally correct.

          Based on zero research and pure anecdotes…

          It's either the final goal or its on the way there.

          Oh so now it’s not necessarily a goal anymore… Funny that when someone argues a bit you change your tune but you’re still unable to admit that your might simply be wrong and generalizing based on some bad experiences.

          Young men want sex.

          Oh so it’s only young men now… You’re moving that goalpost so much, take care not to hurt your back!

          Men don't just do things for love they do things for imaginary hypothetical love neither party believes will ever happen.

          Nice if you to put everyone in the same basket, maybe you should watch people interact sometimes, I’m a man with plenty of women friends and there’s no sexual tension or desire there.

          I don’t know what kind of relationships you’ve had with men in the past but it’s no more fair of you to generalize like that then it would be for me to say all women end up cheating just because I’ve known more women who did so then men.

          I’ve also been treated like crap by some women, should I start hating on them and talking like they all want the same thing? Heck, all women want is men’s money. There, we’re on the same level now, how does it feel? Do you think men who believe that are idiots? Well, women who think men only want sex are idiots too.

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            9 months ago

            I don’t know what kind of relationships you’ve had with men

            I’m a straight man. If you think I’m being unfair to men I’m not. I’m just capable of looking at myself and others critically and fairly and not bullshitting myself by pretending to cold and saintly virtue. To be without passion or drive is neither virtuous or desirable. I don’t need to research men to understand what it is to be a man especially a young man. I’m sorry you are so confused that you can’t even have this conversation maturely.

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              9 months ago

              If that’s how you feel about the people around you and you can’t have a relationship with a woman without seeing sex as the end goal, the only person that needs maturing here is you bud.

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      8 months ago

      That ain’t true. You can be friends with women. You can be friends with men. Even if you are attracted to them, you can be friends with them, but the thing is, you gotta respect the friendship. It’s not all sex.

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        8 months ago

        Men desire friendship for its own sake but they never stop considering sex in the equation.