China has lashed out at Germany after its foreign minister called Xi Jinping a “dictator” and summoned Berlin’s ambassador for a dressing down, in the latest flaring of tensions with a western democratic power over how the Chinese leader is described overseas.

  • @MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml
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    -388 months ago

    There’s a big difference here.

    Is Trump’s skin naturally orange? Is there a long history of oppressing white people in the US and other NATO countries?

    Just because the Winnie the Pooh meme didn’t originate as a racist symbol doesn’t mean that it isn’t used to propagate racism and sinophobia.

        • eltimablo
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          78 months ago

          Insulting someone doesn’t make it racist just because the other person is a different race from you.

          Also, the meme was started by Chinese people.

          • @MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml
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            -58 months ago

            I agree with you on both points, but that is not the argument that I was making. If you need some more context, Here’s just one of the many additional comments I left in this thread explaining my position.

            FYI, citing the fact that the meme originated in China does not negate how it is used by others after the fact. It’s like arguing that when neonazis use the swastika, it’s ok because its actual origins are as an ancient religious symbol. The meanings of things can change and be used for reasons other than their original intention.

            I’m not saying the meme is racist, I’m saying that it’s being used in a racist way here, specifically in the form of Sinophobia.

              • @MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml
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                18 months ago

                True, but you can also see that I clarified my statement in better detail after initially wording it poorly. You got me, I guess I’ll go rethink my entire worldview now.

      • @MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml
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        -128 months ago

        I think you misinterpreted part of what I’m saying. The use of the meme in Taiwan and Hong Kong were political dissent, not racism.

        The use of the meme in NATO countries is racist due to their history of racism and because this is one of the tools these governments use to convince you that China is your enemy and you should support military actions against them before their military becomes stronger than that of the US and they lose their monopoly on international power and subsequently their power to bully the rest of the world.

        Before you dismiss this argument by saying it’s just because Xi doesn’t like the meme, where did you get this information? From what I’ve seen the Chinese government has not responded and the reasoning behind the ban is purely speculative. Sure, I believe they banned the comparison as it was the basis of geopolitical dissent, but to claim it’s because a world leader who gets insulted frequently and in worse ways has thin skin is a stretch. He has bigger worries than Westerners tweeting at him.

        If you want a tool to fight the power of dictators, you’d be better served focusing on organizing the citizens of your own country against the powers that work against their interests at home. They point you toward foreign leaders and say “look, they’re worse” so you won’t criticize the shit job your own “representatives” are doing at home.

        • @intensely_human@lemm.ee
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          28 months ago

          The use of the meme in NATO countries is racist due to their history of racism

          This isn’t how that works. And even if it were, then it would be racist everywhere due to everywhere’s history of racism.

    • @GBU_28@lemm.ee
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      88 months ago

      What? Winnie the Pooh is from a British cartoon…Asian people aren’t described as “orange” by racists. I don’t think you know the origin of this meme

      Please illustrate how a British cartoon character is a racist caricature of xi? Is Barack Obama a tiger?