• pingvenoOP
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    2 years ago

    Coutry which have something like 11 empty homes per homeless person

    This is a misleading statistic that constantly gets misused. Certain regions in the US have experienced massive depopulation, leading to empty housing units. Other regions, like the Portland metro area, have seen fairly stead growth. So while there may be empty housing, it’s not located where it is needed. That number also usually includes housing that is not finished with construction, is in transition between tenants/owners, or is a vacation home where

    There are some legitimate issues with housing in the US. AirBNB is a problem, with an increasing amount of housing going to AirBNB instead of to residents. I’ve also heard about schemes where large investment firms buying up apartment complexes have figured out that a certain price will leave vacant units, but fetch a higher overall profit. I have heard one legislative fix to impose a tax on ownership of over X housing units.

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      2 years ago

      So you just see a problem with a huge landlords. Guess what, it’s the exact same problem, just on the bigger scale, especially that capitalism does with rent seekers the same thing it does with rest of the bourgeoisie, big eat small. Property gets concentrated.

      And about the “misused” statistic, i have another idea, very closely tied to the first and abandoning neoliberal dogma - how about creating jobs in those depopulated areas? Or maybe, since it’s so big difference, just giving the homes to people? Without rent eating 70% of their wages even those depopulated areas could surprise you.

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        I don’t see an intrinsic problem with landlords. In the ideal situation, they provide a service. People can rent a housing unit with a low commitment attached. There are serious downsides to ownership like the amount of concentration of a household’s wealth in a single asset, upkeep, and being tied to a given unit for a long period of time. It’s only when landlords aren’t providing appropriate value to tenants or are being abusive that I see a real issue.

        how about creating jobs in those depopulated areas

        More easily said than done. There are usually reasons those areas have trouble. Creating jobs is rarely a matter of waving some magic wand. There are efforts to get jobs into those areas for sure, but they’re often unsuccessful. Sometimes it really is better to let an area die instead of spending a bunch of money trying to get people to move to an unproductive area.

        Or maybe, since it’s so big difference, just giving the homes to people?

        Some of those homes literally are just going for a pittance, something like a dollar. Clearly there’s something else going on. So why not just transfer ownership? Well, residing in a home is about more than just owning a structure. There’s sewer, water, waste management, maintenance, and so on. Also, many homeless people have at least one mental illness, either as the cause of their homelessness or acquired while homeless, so they need mental health resources. An area that is experiencing depopulation is unlikely to have that care available.

        A housing first approach near appropriate services is designed to help provide the stability they need and stronger connections with services. A door that locks and some privacy goes a long way. Uprooting them and chucking them in some godforsaken town is not a real solution.

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          2 years ago

          Well i know of the magic wand which was pretty good at “conjuring” housing, healthcare, jobs and other necessities. Hell, even two magic wands -☭ hammer and sickle ☭