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    I’m trying to create a conlang myself for the EU, because I don’t like the EU/US culture osmosis.
    The US is a vestige of English colonialism dominating European thought and thus colonialism never left the EU and the only way to break with it and go into a direction of self-improvement, would be to take lessons of China and break away from US meddling.

    I also dabbled in it on Duolingo, but I started to dislike a few aspects about it for an EU language, mainly that it’s ideology is geared towards internationalism
    (I consider internationalism as putting all eggs in one basket, with current internationalists being almost all pro-US)
    and secondly because the language looks a lot like Spanish (not my favorite European language to listen to).

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      Esperanto says its international, but all the core languages it uses are European. So it is already a “conlang for the EU”.

      As an “international” auxlang it’s absolutely terribly. There’s been many better done attempts:

      • Toki Pona: Probably the least problematic and least likely to displace native languages. It’s explicitly a simple language and an “auxiliary lang” in the true sense of the word. Also one of the few that use a vowel system that’s actually accessible to almost all languages of the world and a really great phonetic alphabet with constants and vowels that make sense for languages worldwide and not just European languages.
      • Ido: Tried to fix some of the many flaws of Esperanto, but still has random sexist grammar like the word for woman being derived from the word for man or the word for female parent being derived from the word for male parent
      • Pandunia: Don’t know as much about it, but seems to actually derive root words form a wider array of natlangs.
      • Lingwa de Planeta: Derived form the most widely used natlangs in the world. The biggest critique of this is just that it misses entire language families that are extremely widespread together but there’s no single individual language that’s widespread. As a result there’s no language from either Americas that influences. However this critique holds for all of the above languages (except for Toki Pona) as well. Overall this is probably my favorite. It was developed by a group of linguists in St. Petersberg in the 2000s and is very well thought-out.
      • Novial: If Ido is Esperanto 2, this is Esperanto 3. One of the co-creators of Ido invented this. I haven’t really dug into it but it kinda died with its creator despite having a decent following.

      Edit: See also Lingua, Glosa, Kotava, Volapük, Vollanjo, and Paqatyl