Sorry about the trash title, couldn’t think of something more elaborate or appropriate. Also sorry if this isn’t the best place to pose this question.

So, given the state of world affairs right now, with the decoupling from US currency, soaring prices, impending recession, possible open war, etc., I want to ask fellow US comrades as well as comrades living in other countries like the UK who will be seriously impacted by this: How do you intend to survive the oncoming possible collapse?

As we all know, any time there is any sort of crisis, the wealthy are completely unaffected and the burden always falls entirely on working class people. Starvation, homelessness, increased violence, looting, etc. will affect everyone. My household has what would normally be a comfortable income and already this shit is starting to affect us. Or at least that is what the growing empty spaces in our fridge and pantry are telling us, and our electricity bill which doubled since two months ago despite the wattage being about the same.

While the collapse of western hegemony will be good for the world at large, collapse doesn’t mean disappearance. After all, the Spanish Empire did not suddenly vanish from the world stage just because they lost sea dominance, the United States still might survive as an independent, reactionary, nuclear armed, ultra-conservative, capitalist, shit hole where now the poor are significantly poorer and all those troops stationed overseas are granted law enforcement rights domestically or whatever.

And sorry my post is so US-centric, but I can only reasonably speak to local conditions and not as much those of other western nations. I’m interested in what those comrades have to say though for sure! While there are certainly differences in local material conditions there are also a lot of similarities, as well as solutions that can apply to multiple problems.

I know (or at least sincerely suspect) that it won’t be some world ending apocalypse or whatever doomers will have you believe, but innocent working class people will die.

So the question again is: How do you intend to survive the oncoming possible collapse, and possibly even help others?

  • @TeezyZeezy@lemmygrad.ml
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    *When the US Empire falls.

    Collapse of many Western nations is an inevitability at this point. They simply do not have the resources, leadership, or the land to pillage. No wars to start to save their economy. They are losing their death grip on the world thanks to China. Capitalism will bring failures and ultimately fail as a system, I believe, within our lifetimes.

    As for the apocalypse thing, yes. It won’t be a rapid KABOOM goodbye to the world as we know it, but rather a slow descend into worse material conditions, like shittier pay, crumbling infrastructure, increased social unrest, crime, all while climate change displaces and harms millions (and eventually, billions) over. Luckily, this will be prime time for revolution and community.

    Sorry for the rambling. To answer your question, I am getting in shape, stocking up on long shelf-life food, rotating it as needed. Will be investing in solar generator and, eventually, weapons and ammunition. Ordering some books on basic survival in the event that power goes out or some kind of insane infrastructure problem takes place. Learning to can, expanding my garden (Midwest USA, so climate change should still allow for good growing) next spring.

    For helping people, I plan on having a conversation with people I know and trust about creating a good sense of community and getting out of the individualist mindset. Trying to create a strong, like-minded community is one of the best things you can do and provides the highest chance of survival and successful revolution.

    Apologies for the lengthy response!

    Edit: Grammar + adding some stuff

    • @KiwiProle@lemmygrad.ml
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      You’ve got some good stuff in there comrade. In terms of building your community you should defo look into how to set up community gardens in your area. It helps the proletariat develop skills and systems of self sustenance, planning, and diistribution, as well as building that communal mindset

      • @TeezyZeezy@lemmygrad.ml
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        32 years ago

        Much thanks! Yeah, I wasn’t very elaborate on the communal side of things, mostly because I’m not /wasn’t sure where to start. I’ll take your advice. Who doesn’t enjoy growing things?!

        Onward, my friend