And even the current president has been found to do about half of what Trump is being brought to court for… Plus the whole nonsense with Hunter. They’re all corrupt crooks that have all undermined our country for their own gains.
The only thing close to what Trump has done that Biden was involved with is when there were some classified documents found, which were promptly returned. Unlike Trump, who purposefully and knowingly took classified documents, left them unsecured in his resort, bragged about it, and refused to return them when requested.
Biden also didn’t stage a coup or lie about and try to manipulate election results.
So, like, no where close to “half” of what Trump has done. If you actually believe that, you’re a fucking moron.
And who gives a shit about Hunter. He’s not even a public official, unlike Ivanka and Jared Kushner were during Trump’s presidency where they promptly used their positions for personal gain…
Quit with the both sides bullshit and read a fucking book.
Sorry, I was more referring to Biden’a classified docs that were found. Trump’s offenses are on a whole other scale, but there’s at least a modicum of similarity there to compare.
I know. I was just commenting on the difference between the handful of documents that apparently every former President/VP has ended up with accidentally versus Trump’s stacks of boxes he was hoarding and showing off to guests.
You don’t seem to understand what’s happening here. Let’s make the comparison… One’s a Rapist… the other just goes around sexually assaulting people. NEITHER is okay. We don’t stand/allow for either in society. So why do it with the dem/rep fuckheads? How come this whole thread vehemently defends the dems so hard going so far as to automatically class me as a republican when I don’t vote that way? You guys are so far lost into it just like the republicans are… to the point that sexual harassment is “okay” in your eyes because the alternative is “rape”. It’s some really faulty logic you all are imposing here.
One’s a Rapist… the other just goes around sexually assaulting people.
Nah, we all don’t buy into Republican fantasy world.
How come this whole thread vehemently defends the dems so hard going so far as to automatically class me as a republican when I don’t vote that way?
If it walks like a duck.
You guys are so far lost into it just like the republicans are… to the point that sexual harassment is “okay” in your eyes because the alternative is “rape”.
Classic Republican argument. Really good at arguing against those straw men, huh.
Literally all complete and explainable thoughts. You might want to actually learn to read a bit better… or follow the topic a bit better if you’re going to argue against people on the matter.
I never voted for Trump. Keep putting me in whatever basket you want in your head. Sad that anyone who disagrees with you is immediately in the “other” camp. So no, he didn’t grift me at all.
You’re the ultimate grift actually. Because his supporters are just stupid or evil. But instead he convinced someone who purportedly disagrees to support him. Regardless of your vote, whether we believe you or not.
What the fuck are you talking about? I’m all about Trump going to Jail. I just want Biden to go too. You know… Treat everyone equal under the law and all.
You guys are so belligerently dumb about this you can’t even parse that it’s virtually the same laws broken. Just one asshat was also loud about it. You guys have proven the point yourselves, no need for me to source anything else.
Which is the other half of the shit Trump is being charge for… Keep up kid.
See above… where 37/78 is ~50%.
Considering that it’s obvious and clear at this point that the President knew about it… and lied to the public about it. You should care.
Guy has no history of doing the job… Gets sent to do the job in a foreign country. This is obvious nepotism in overseas dealings. Yet Biden has continuously claimed to have no idea about any of his sons foreign dealings. I could provide probably dozens of examples of this including much more recent stuff. But I’m more curious if you’re just going to argue in bad faith.
I’ve read plenty of books.
I used to be a College Professor… I’ve WRITTEN books. Let alone how many I’ve read…
Seems that you need some help with education though.
Opinion.
It is literally both sides. And you’re a fucking moron if you believe otherwise.
Self-evident, and snarky response to your bullshit.
Enough evidence for you? I’m not sure how you could be arguing in this thread at all if you didn’t even know about the simple facts I’ve linked here. This isn’t me needing to provide “evidence”… it was you being too fucking lazy to keep up with the discussion overall before injecting your bullshit 2 cents.
I just love that they can argue until their blue in the mouth that I’m arguing in bad faith and am clearly spouting “conservative[they mean Republican] talking points”. Even though I cite non-conservative sources and am NOT a Republican as I’m registered independent and haven’t voted for Republican president in the past 2 elections.
Anything right of them is automatically Republican. It’s stupid.
And even the current president has been found to do about half of what Trump is being brought to court for… Plus the whole nonsense with Hunter. They’re all corrupt crooks that have all undermined our country for their own gains.
The only thing close to what Trump has done that Biden was involved with is when there were some classified documents found, which were promptly returned. Unlike Trump, who purposefully and knowingly took classified documents, left them unsecured in his resort, bragged about it, and refused to return them when requested.
Biden also didn’t stage a coup or lie about and try to manipulate election results.
So, like, no where close to “half” of what Trump has done. If you actually believe that, you’re a fucking moron.
And who gives a shit about Hunter. He’s not even a public official, unlike Ivanka and Jared Kushner were during Trump’s presidency where they promptly used their positions for personal gain…
Quit with the both sides bullshit and read a fucking book.
How many bathrooms full is “some”?
Sorry, I was more referring to Biden’a classified docs that were found. Trump’s offenses are on a whole other scale, but there’s at least a modicum of similarity there to compare.
I know. I was just commenting on the difference between the handful of documents that apparently every former President/VP has ended up with accidentally versus Trump’s stacks of boxes he was hoarding and showing off to guests.
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Lol wtf?
Yes. One side is incompetent, one is criminal and actively malicious
I’ve learned not to dignify “enlightened centrists” with a reply. It just helps them feed their bad narratives.
Wonderful! Thanks for agreeing that both sides are literally bad. Thanks.
Yeah, so because neither side is literal God, let’s vote for the ones intentionally fucking people over. Great job
Or… and hear me out… Don’t vote for either.
You don’t seem to understand what’s happening here. Let’s make the comparison… One’s a Rapist… the other just goes around sexually assaulting people. NEITHER is okay. We don’t stand/allow for either in society. So why do it with the dem/rep fuckheads? How come this whole thread vehemently defends the dems so hard going so far as to automatically class me as a republican when I don’t vote that way? You guys are so far lost into it just like the republicans are… to the point that sexual harassment is “okay” in your eyes because the alternative is “rape”. It’s some really faulty logic you all are imposing here.
Nah, we all don’t buy into Republican fantasy world.
If it walks like a duck.
Classic Republican argument. Really good at arguing against those straw men, huh.
Dude! Just saying things doesn’t make them true. Stop blindly repeating easily disproven lies you hear on Fox news.
As soon as you stop believing the easily disproven lies you are getting from The View, MSNBC and CNN. Cool?
I don’t watch fox news. Good try. And if it’s so easily disproven… feel free to go ahead and line by line disprove it.
No he hasn’t.
Isn’t even a complete thought.
A thoughtless platitude.
There’s your line by line rebuttal with just as much thought and evidence behind it as your original comment.
https://lemmy.saik0.com/comment/546464
Literally all complete and explainable thoughts. You might want to actually learn to read a bit better… or follow the topic a bit better if you’re going to argue against people on the matter.
So you just happen to be spouting their talking points, totally by coincidence.
Coincidence? So NPR and Washingtonpost covering the same stories is republican sources now?
https://lemmy.saik0.com/comment/546464
You people would be hilarious if you weren’t intent on electing a literal traitor, intent on grifting the country like he’s grifted all of you people
I never voted for Trump. Keep putting me in whatever basket you want in your head. Sad that anyone who disagrees with you is immediately in the “other” camp. So no, he didn’t grift me at all.
You’re the ultimate grift actually. Because his supporters are just stupid or evil. But instead he convinced someone who purportedly disagrees to support him. Regardless of your vote, whether we believe you or not.
What the fuck are you talking about? I’m all about Trump going to Jail. I just want Biden to go too. You know… Treat everyone equal under the law and all.
Nobody convinced me of shit.
The obligation is yours to prove your claims, not mine to disprove random wild allegations.
Well known facts that need to be proved. But fine, no problem.
https://www.npr.org/2023/01/14/1149071576/biden-classified-documents-what-we-know
This is an opinion and doesn’t require “facts” to back it up
https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-donald-trumps-three-indictments-78-felony-charges-1816951
Answer is 78 counts. 37 are documents related. or… 47%… roughly half.
See first link. I can get more if you want… but I think we both know that it’s true.
https://lemmy.ml/comment/2194169
https://lemmy.world/comment/1989593
https://lemmy.world/comment/1990015
You guys are so belligerently dumb about this you can’t even parse that it’s virtually the same laws broken. Just one asshat was also loud about it. You guys have proven the point yourselves, no need for me to source anything else.
See above… where 37/78 is ~50%.
This one is fun… https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462
https://www.washingtonpost.com/podcasts/post-reports/the-story-of-hunter-bidens-dealings-in-ukraine/
Guy has no history of doing the job… Gets sent to do the job in a foreign country. This is obvious nepotism in overseas dealings. Yet Biden has continuously claimed to have no idea about any of his sons foreign dealings. I could provide probably dozens of examples of this including much more recent stuff. But I’m more curious if you’re just going to argue in bad faith.
I used to be a College Professor… I’ve WRITTEN books. Let alone how many I’ve read…
Opinion.
Self-evident, and snarky response to your bullshit.
Enough evidence for you? I’m not sure how you could be arguing in this thread at all if you didn’t even know about the simple facts I’ve linked here. This isn’t me needing to provide “evidence”… it was you being too fucking lazy to keep up with the discussion overall before injecting your bullshit 2 cents.
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I love how often a “debate” will end when someone brings the citations.
I just love that they can argue until their blue in the mouth that I’m arguing in bad faith and am clearly spouting “conservative[they mean Republican] talking points”. Even though I cite non-conservative sources and am NOT a Republican as I’m registered independent and haven’t voted for Republican president in the past 2 elections.
Anything right of them is automatically Republican. It’s stupid.
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