True, but is the trend of Americans caring about simple things or seeing it as boring more relevant to their unknowingly privileged world view? Or is that just a part of that?
I believe Americans are the most propagandized people on the planet. The education system (including expensive colleges) is atrocious. Not only is critical thinking ability not taught, it’s actively discouraged.
The media is so bad most people I know don’t even pay attention to it anymore. Class conscious amongst the working class here is virtually non-existent.
Americans need to be de-programmed. The good news is this can happen rather quickly, especially as trust in the institutions here is deteriorating.
(preferably in person) Especially concerning geopolitics or history, you can name specific events that go against the imperialist narrative, that they haven’t even been taught, to jump start their brains. Best with your average Yank, history bros are more propagated and hear about more events, so they are tainted.
For example with Ukraine, tell them about the civil war and the Donbass regions, and take Russia out of the equation. Mention a name like Bandera that they aren’t told about. Azoz and the obvious Nazi iconography. Hell after you get their heart strings mention the burning of communists.
I’ve actually been working on my mom (liberal boomer). She’s come a long way. She definitely sees all the problems with capitalism but hasn’t quite put it all together.
She watches MSNBC all the time and that shit is just as poisonous as Fox News. I’ve kept a lot of my beliefs from her because she wouldn’t understand at this point. But there have been many times where I’ve told her something and later she’ll say ‘I looked up what you told me and turns out you were right.’
That’s great to hear, so she’s a boomer have you mentioned Vietnam, cause that was controversial for the US(even if it was because it paid the bills for the media). You could really get in the nittie gritties if Vietnam’s experience with Imperialism.
My area of expertise are fellow school children so I’ll talk with them when I get the chance (I’m always talking to new people). luckily in my generation socialism is naturalized so you can speak of it, but not communism lol. Here people are showing signs of class consciousness but aren’t enveloped in politics so I can bread crumb them to ML without worrying about being called a tankie. Second thought’s position on the ML pipeline and the Deprogram doing exactly what is supposed to do, helps libs or commie-curious individuals, skip so much political nonsense. Those three are life savers.
Well I think people like Emerican Johnson and Luna can talk about this. Being American were taught that basically America and its satelights are the center of the world. And we are indoctrinated to have a world view largely disconnected with reality.
When Americans deprogram, gain class continuousness, and think more dialectically about capitalism and other things…
Then maybe we can get past the nationalism.
Oh hey Average American howdy do? Oh what’s that, you are starting to have issues with the Government and Capitalism? Well let me tell you about some guys who agree with you, and trust me they have stronger opinions than you.
(Pulls up map of Global South)
No but even talking about the Third World is what sets MLs apart in the West, I think internationalism is the best way to break American exceptionalism and solidify working class solidarity. Then here you can start educating them about imperialism and it’s effects.
After they recognize other nations that will crumble their nationalism.
True, but is the trend of Americans caring about simple things or seeing it as boring more relevant to their unknowingly privileged world view? Or is that just a part of that?
I believe Americans are the most propagandized people on the planet. The education system (including expensive colleges) is atrocious. Not only is critical thinking ability not taught, it’s actively discouraged.
The media is so bad most people I know don’t even pay attention to it anymore. Class conscious amongst the working class here is virtually non-existent.
Americans need to be de-programmed. The good news is this can happen rather quickly, especially as trust in the institutions here is deteriorating.
(preferably in person) Especially concerning geopolitics or history, you can name specific events that go against the imperialist narrative, that they haven’t even been taught, to jump start their brains. Best with your average Yank, history bros are more propagated and hear about more events, so they are tainted.
For example with Ukraine, tell them about the civil war and the Donbass regions, and take Russia out of the equation. Mention a name like Bandera that they aren’t told about. Azoz and the obvious Nazi iconography. Hell after you get their heart strings mention the burning of communists.
I’ve actually been working on my mom (liberal boomer). She’s come a long way. She definitely sees all the problems with capitalism but hasn’t quite put it all together.
She watches MSNBC all the time and that shit is just as poisonous as Fox News. I’ve kept a lot of my beliefs from her because she wouldn’t understand at this point. But there have been many times where I’ve told her something and later she’ll say ‘I looked up what you told me and turns out you were right.’
That’s great to hear, so she’s a boomer have you mentioned Vietnam, cause that was controversial for the US(even if it was because it paid the bills for the media). You could really get in the nittie gritties if Vietnam’s experience with Imperialism.
My area of expertise are fellow school children so I’ll talk with them when I get the chance (I’m always talking to new people). luckily in my generation socialism is naturalized so you can speak of it, but not communism lol. Here people are showing signs of class consciousness but aren’t enveloped in politics so I can bread crumb them to ML without worrying about being called a tankie. Second thought’s position on the ML pipeline and the Deprogram doing exactly what is supposed to do, helps libs or commie-curious individuals, skip so much political nonsense. Those three are life savers.
Well I think people like Emerican Johnson and Luna can talk about this. Being American were taught that basically America and its satelights are the center of the world. And we are indoctrinated to have a world view largely disconnected with reality.
When Americans deprogram, gain class continuousness, and think more dialectically about capitalism and other things… Then maybe we can get past the nationalism.
I’m thinking something like this:
Oh hey Average American howdy do? Oh what’s that, you are starting to have issues with the Government and Capitalism? Well let me tell you about some guys who agree with you, and trust me they have stronger opinions than you.
(Pulls up map of Global South)
No but even talking about the Third World is what sets MLs apart in the West, I think internationalism is the best way to break American exceptionalism and solidify working class solidarity. Then here you can start educating them about imperialism and it’s effects.
After they recognize other nations that will crumble their nationalism.