I fail to understand why I keep getting kicked/banned from leftist communities. All I did in that community was talk about the BRI, share my reading list, and fascinate about the guoxin-1: China’s first deep-sea fish farm that’s as large as an aircraft carrier. As well as talk to another person about how Chinese media could do a better job at outreach.

To these self-hating leftists, you can apparently only discuss China when they’re dunking on the West. But when you talk about the BRI, Moderate Prosperity, XJP’s New Era, or what have you: you get promptly done away with.

I now understand why none of the reading lists in Socialist groups don’t include anything recent or from the third world. These people are stuck in the past and only want to lever the actions of AES states to support their own moribund view of their world and their socialist causes.

I just wanted to make some friends on the left.

What’s up Western left? I didn’t even post anything (check REVeddit), to that subreddit and have already been banned.

Why can I only talk about anything China-related if it’s in relationship to the West? Are China and the CPC only a foil to Western leftists to promote their own form of socialism?

Does China’s success on its road to Socialism give Western leftists a inferiority complex? Do people that talk about Vietnam or other people from the global South experience the same treatment?

  • roastpotatothief
    6·
    2 years ago

    It’s a great thing to start thinking about. We are running out of food. This kind of new industry and more like it will be needed very soon. If it becomes cheap fast, wild fish might not even go extinct.

    It will also lead to monoculture. Only one fish species will be farmed at large scale. And probably one business will control the entire industry, so it will have huge power over the food supply.

    And the extra nutrients, they are fertiliser, at a time when the world is running out of fertiliser. They could be growing fish food with it, in tanks exposed to sunlight.

    So much to think about.

    • Weyland@lemmygrad.mlOP
      8·
      2 years ago

      And probably one business will control the entire industry, so it will have huge power over the food supply.

      Luckily we’re talking about China and not the USA. Let’s count our lucky stars that Capitalists don’t innovate to the extent that socialists do. Otherwise, they would’ve already automated and enslaved the human race.

      We can produce fertilizers renewably by taking the resources for literal air and waste, the problem is that the cost of doing so is preventive. Just like we can mine e-waste for precious metals; we don’t. Because recycling, just like renewable energy in the form of solar/wind, is democratic in how scalable it is. I.e. it doesn’t allow for the monopolistic agglomeration of resources and thus the established capitalist class won’t invest in these new technologies on their own accord.

      China wants to be resource independent so they’re investing in these new fields, but it will take some time before the fruits of their labour will show (economically viable) results. These technologies are essential if we want to afford everyone the same level of development the West enjoys.

      • roastpotatothief
        2·
        2 years ago

        I guess so. Thanks.

        Just one thing. Fertiliser is a scarce non renewable resource. Not many realise that. I can find you a good explanation if you’re interested.

        • Weyland@lemmygrad.mlOP
          5·
          2 years ago

          I thought nitrogen-based fertilizers were renewable?

          For nitrogen-based fertilizers, the largest product group, the process starts by mixing nitrogen from the air with hydrogen from natural gas at high temperature and pressure to create ammonia. Approximately 60% of the natural gas is used as raw material, with the remainder employed to power the synthesis process.

          The ammonia is used to make nitric acid, with which it is then mixed to produce nitrate fertilizers such as ammonium nitrate (AN). Ammonia may also be mixed with liquid carbon dioxide to create urea. Both these products can be further mixed together with water to form UAN (urea ammonium nitrate) solution.

          I don’t see how any of these steps couldn’t be fabricated without the use of non-reneweable resources.