• Cowbee [he/they]
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    Leftism isn’t some holy vow, it’s a practical working mindset to work towards Socialism. There can be no real progress for humanity while the United States remains the worlds largest empire, the US is the biggest barrier for Socialism worldwide.

    Ultimately, when you simplify everything down to only supporting genuine Leftist movements, you find yourself without even temporary allies who may have otherwise shared a common goal, and this lowers the chance of Socialism succeeding in the long term. In other words, you would refuse to support the Union over the Confederacy, or Palestine over Israel. This is a convenient oversimplified worldview to take, but it isn’t siding with the global Working Class, but just Leftists specifically.

    In other other words, if you refuse to even make temporary allies, you aren’t taking “anti-billionaire” seriously.

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      But taking billionaires as temporary allies against billionaires sounds like a bad idea.

      Like, replace billionaire with fascist, there should be limits after which the entire idea is (literally) compromised.

      I get your point. The “Boycott Harris” campaign was genius to split the votes. I can’t say if their goal, to enable Trump because “he can’t be worse”, will play out like they hoped. But history will tell,…

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        Taking no allies and saying you can’t make allies exclusively on the basis of common temporary interest is dogmatic. Again, your line of logic sides against Palestine and against the Union, because neither could be considered “Leftist” as systems. This is wrong.

        The odd non-sequitor to Harris to push a confused narrative of Leftists preferring Trump is pointless, for many people genocide is a firm red line and by all accounts the United States is Genocidal.

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          No what I meant was:

          No allies != Selected Allies, Fascists should never be considered allies under any circumstances (which includes Israel). Usually fascists start a genocide (they need someone below them they can exploit to extinction for their shit system to work, which is basically the definition of modern capitalism).

          In terms of the Harris Genocide Campaign and the common temporary interests, I am probably too dumb to see the strategy. Especially since Trumps despicable statement: “To let them finish the job”, which in turn confuses the heck out of me in a two party (shit) system.

          It shouldn’t be so complicated… be a facist, get fucked. Everything else can be talked about.