• Cowbee [he/they]
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    It’s best to correctly contextualize all bad. Simply saying X is bad if one country does .5X and another does 2X equalizes each into merely “X.”

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        My point is that that is bad, it obscures reality and leads to incorrect conclusions.

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            5 hours ago

            Bad actions have different intensities and scales. Such equal condemnation for unequal evil leads to people who refuse to take a Pro-Palestinian stance, which implicitly sides with Israel as the stronger force.

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              The whole point is to condemn evil whatever the intensity, scale or who is responsible.
              But somehow it always comes to a comparison of evilness (obviously always the US) which somehow excuses (mostly Chinese or Russian) atrocities. And that is the issue.

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                I just showed you the consequence of your framing, correct? The goal isn’t to excuse anything, but to come to correct conclusions. Your line of thinking supports the genocide of Palestinians, because it becomes a toothless “both sides bad,” resulting in “continue the course.” It’s the equivalent of coming out and saying “cancer is bad,” it doesn’t change anything.

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                  But it doesn’t. It perfectly fine to say Hamas terrorist attacks are wrong and at the same town saying the Israeli genocide is wrong.

                  The problem is that when Russia bombs a children’s hospital and it’s pointed out as a war crime, there’s always some schmuck saying “Oh yeah?! But the US is responsible for hundreds of thousand dead civilians in Afghanistan!”
                  And yes, that is fucking heineous but it doesn’t make leveling a hospital less severe. 🙄

                  A bad is a bad.

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                    Again, your moral equivalence results in standing back and watching Palestine be erased from the map. Equal condemnation for unequal evils minimizes the worse and raises the lesser evil.