I agree on this topic of “dogfooding”. I think the aversion stems from people perceiving what fedi currently offers as still insufficient / too immature set of tools, or just not knowing how to best wield fedi. What tools do we need? Chat, forum, docs. Microblogging can be a replacement for chat (if we don’t use matrix, which may be better suited). For forum with a more async, long-term discussion and archive forming Lemmy comes close. Having docs in a federated manner would be nice too. Feder...

The lack of deeper integrations between different app types and the federated identity issue (every instance their own signup and user acccount) form significant barrier to widespread collaboration is my general observation.

For instance in any well-received toot with a link to a SocialHub forum topic on average no one takes the effort to respond on SocialHub. Mostly the discussion remains microblogging, and then it sinks into history when activity peters out. The insights and collective knowledge isn’t gathered and lost.

  • liwott
    2•2 years ago

    I agree that it is a very crucial point, I am still not unconvinced by my first very naive impression on Socialhub.

    This would also bring some more centralisation of Fediverse development, in that for example every new fedi platform with a “comment” feature should be able to post a comment on that central forum.
    Now when a platform A wants to send a message to an unknown platform B, it will preferably try in that central dialect.
    So that becomes an advantage for discoverability that platform B be able to also receive in that dialect.
    So a part of the problem of interoperability reduces from compatibility between each pair of softwares to the one between each software and central forum.

    Would that be desirable? I think so.

    • smallcirclesOPM
      1•2 years ago

      So you mean a sort of central hub, that serves as a reference implemention for the interoperability standards themself? So, if you are able to communicate with it, you can interop with any other app that is also able to do so. Yes, that is a desirable situation. Note that there are various discussions ongoing that boil down to a similar solutions, namely for having compliance testsuites and tools against which to test your implementation. @dansup@lemmy.ml is working some on fantastic and exciting developments in this area.

      • liwott
        2•2 years ago

        Yes, exactly. And if that reference hub was at the same time the forum where (most of) the devs meet, that would probably be as close to dogfooding as it gets.