Donald Trump has been elected the 47th president of the United States, an extraordinary comeback for a former president who refused to accept defeat four years ago, sparked a violent insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, was convicted of felony charges and survived two assassination attempts.

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      Well I guess the good news is that it no longer matters if they learn anything? These election results make it clear that going forward they’ll have about as much effect on lawmaking as a dead hamster. It’s even possible that, except for serving as a convenient cardboard bogeyman, they’ll otherwise cease to exist at all.

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        “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” ― Upton Sinclair, I, Candidate for Governor: And How I Got Licked

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        Democrats are learning in real time what the real function of a controlled opposition party is in a capitalist dictatorship.

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      You can blame Democrats all you want. This is a cause of Americans being idiots and bigots.

      I don’t wanna hear another damn word about Palestine from young leftists, after they stayed home. You all need to shut the fuck up with your moralizing and removed, when you won’t even vote. Enjoy Trump, morons.

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          You ain’t seen nothing yet. Trump’s most loyal base is Evangelical Christians, and they widely believe in Greater Israel. They also tend to dislike nonwhites. He may not give a rats ass about Israel, but his advisors do, and he personally likes Netanyahu.

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              Actually, 90 dems boycotted that speech. This also deflects from my argument that the situation in Gaza is going to become far more dire in a few months.

              To answer your question, though: You know how there’s around 2 million Gazans still alive? Starving and desperate, but still alive. It’s not just us, but the whole international community that is responsible for that, otherwise Netanyahu could’ve implemented his “General’s Plan” six months ago. Nothing except international leverage can maintain those lives. Leverage is not free, though, it must be purchased somehow. People do not just listen to you otherwise, unless they get something from it. While it would be theoretically possible to attempt sanctions, doing this to an ally during war would be political suicide domestically, resulting in a different administration and reversal of the policy. This would result in their eventual deaths anyway, simply after a delay.

              Not that our current timeline is looking any differently, admittedly. But actually saving them is not nearly as simple as everyone seems to think, as if some total boycott of arms to Israel would somehow quickly lead to an Israeli military defeat. Advanced munitions are not necessary for a genocide, it can be done with napalm and the withholding of food. This would not be expensive. Nor are advanced munitions necessary for the continued survival of the IDF, which numbered around 400k strong in the initial stages of the war.

              Defeating this genocide is unfortunately far, far harder than people make it out to be, due to a powerful faction of domestic support among American citizens and AIPAC lobbyists.

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                It’s not just us, but the whole international community that is responsible for that

                No. There is one country giving 17 Billion dollars in weaponry and aid to Israel. Don’t blame the “international community” for the genocide being funded and armed by your party. Your own party is opposing the current resolutions in the UN to denounce this genocide.

                Israel would quickly go the way of south africa without US support. Will anything make US democrats stop pointing fingers at other people, and start accepting blame for their own actions?

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            And evangelicals have hard-ons for the end times and the second coming of Jesus. They believe the terrorist state of Isreal will somehow accomplish this through their ongoing genocide of Palestinians.

            Evangelicals are literally cheering on the end of the world. They are a death cult.

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        You became a nazi to win and you lost. Now you’re a loser and you’re a nazi.

        I think you need to removed yourself from the conversation.

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            Less racist and colonial than your nazi ass considering you wanted me to support a settler colonial genocide and I wouldn’t.

            And fuck off. You’re as American as your 90’s US TV show reference. Don’t wear burgerface and then try to distance yourself.

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              It’s funny your white ass calling a native person a Nazi colonizer because I said Harris is better than Trump. I guess that means you think Trump is better, so enjoy it. Clearly you’re his base racist and offensive and hateful to us brown folk

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                You wanted me to support a settler colonial genocide because your first hand experience is that it rules and should be exported?

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                Now that there’s no utility in it, can you please stop fucking lying about your side being better than it is?

                For a while you were perfectly comfortable using banger lines like “genocide isn’t on the ballot” so what the fuck do you think my response would be?

                I have been consistent this entire time telling you what your side was doing wrong and what the consequences would be. And the entire time you’ve been condescending to me like it was me who was the child who needed to humble myself into the role of the student.