• sub_ubi
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    2 months ago

    Any word from #AbandonHarris?

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      Don’t know, don’t care, because that’s a stupid fucking movement if you’re actually interested in preventing a fascist electoral victory.

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          The one that the neo-Nazis don’t like. You know exactly what the fuck I’m talking about.

          Stop pushing that false equivalence bullshit.

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                What am I spoiling? Either my candidate wins or one of the ethnic cleansing candidates wins. (I’m against ethnic cleansing)

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                  “I don’t like murder, but I’m sure as hell not going to vote for the ‘less murder’ option! I’m going to keep my hands clean and help more murder happen instead.”

                  Not taking action is still a choice. Your convictions are sacraficed by not preventing the worse thing. In the trolley problem, not pulling the lever that saves lives is still a choice. You aren’t helping anyone by plugging your ears with your fingers. You’re only keeping your childish self-view intact. You didn’t actually do anything.

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                    There is no lesser genocide. Israel is getting everything it wants currently, from Democrats.

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                  Your actions suggest you’re interested in acting like you’re against it rather than stopping it

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                    Yes, I think it’s important to act upon my convictions. If you have a strategy to stop it please share!

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                  Tell me you don’t understand the influence AIPAC wields in American politics without telling me you don’t understand the influence AIPAC wields in American politics

                  Pull your head out of your ass. Harris has to tread carefully if she doesn’t want AIPAC to give a dump truck of money to Trump. Moreover, she has ZERO official capacity to define or enact international policy as the VP. And voting 3p increases the chance that Trump wins, and his idea of a “final solution” in Gaza will be a lot fucking closer to Bibi’s than a two-state solution, let alone a halt to the violence and apartheid. Trump’s likely to send a squadron of B-52s to Gaza and the West Bank to reduce them to rubble, then break ground on a new beachfront Trump Tower Gaza with a special land grant from Bibi.

                  But sure; ignore the context. Be part of the group that helps to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Let the fascists win. What could possibly fucking go wrong.

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                    Harris already said her backing of Israel’s genocide is ironclad, and she’ll keep Biden’s bloodthirsty foreign policy intact. Trump can’t do “more genocide” because as you pointed out, AIPAC has secured every bomb they desire.

                    And sorry to nitpick but a two state solution is still apartheid. Everyone controlled by Israel deserves full citizenship.