• gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Tell me you don’t understand the influence AIPAC wields in American politics without telling me you don’t understand the influence AIPAC wields in American politics

    Pull your head out of your ass. Harris has to tread carefully if she doesn’t want AIPAC to give a dump truck of money to Trump. Moreover, she has ZERO official capacity to define or enact international policy as the VP. And voting 3p increases the chance that Trump wins, and his idea of a “final solution” in Gaza will be a lot fucking closer to Bibi’s than a two-state solution, let alone a halt to the violence and apartheid. Trump’s likely to send a squadron of B-52s to Gaza and the West Bank to reduce them to rubble, then break ground on a new beachfront Trump Tower Gaza with a special land grant from Bibi.

    But sure; ignore the context. Be part of the group that helps to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Let the fascists win. What could possibly fucking go wrong.

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      Harris already said her backing of Israel’s genocide is ironclad, and she’ll keep Biden’s bloodthirsty foreign policy intact. Trump can’t do “more genocide” because as you pointed out, AIPAC has secured every bomb they desire.

      And sorry to nitpick but a two state solution is still apartheid. Everyone controlled by Israel deserves full citizenship.

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        2 months ago

        I don’t think your perception of the dichotomy between the presidential candidates in this election - of which there are two, and only two - is fully moored in reality.

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          What non-NATO sources can you cite that explain the dichotomy? I’d love to know which candidates are against ethnic cleansing.

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            2 months ago

            And that statement right there is how I know this is an absolutely useless debate. I’m willing to bet you think China and Russia are shining pillars of virtue, as the successor states to the Marxist ideals, or some such drivel.

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              Is this your first time encouraging people to vote for ethnic cleansing? How much of your time do you dedicate to rationalizing genocide?

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                Wow dude you are just a barrel of laughs.

                I’m not going to stop trying to get people to vote for the only viable candidate in our country that can prevent Trump from winning and turning this place into a theocratic fascist kleptocracy. If you can’t/won’t understand that and get behind that goal, I honestly have nothing constructive or friendly to say to you.

                The world is more than a single issue. Trump getting elected would be catastrophic in a whole fucking lot more ways than just Gaza, but he’d absolutely make that shitshow worse too. If I could wave a magic wand and stop what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians, get rid of their ossified and entrenched leadership, and have the actual people who just want to fucking live figure out how to do that together, I would. But I can’t. You can’t either. Get off your fucking high horse.

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                  If you believe we have a shred of democracy (which I personally doubt) then you believe that politicians are somewhat mutable by their constituency.

                  In that case, consider spending your time encouraging the candidates to support popular policy (No arms to Israel) rather than attempting to change the voters.