• antmzo220
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    So how would the judges be appointed under this system and why is it better than having them chosen from the people?

    If the current system hasn’t prevented political influence, then the method of choosing obviously isn’t guaranteeing unbiased judges anyway, so what’s the point in keeping it as opposed to elected judges?

    Why not have elected judges and

    Strong and diverse press, strong and enforced rules against politically motivated decisions.

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      So how would the judges be appointed under this system and why is it better than having them chosen from the people?

      By competition and diploma. A judge is a legal technician. Why elect him on political bases? We do not elect an engineer on political criteria, we take the one who seems the best among the candidates.

      If the current system hasn’t prevented political influence, then the method of choosing obviously isn’t guaranteeing unbiased judges anyway, so what’s the point in keeping it as opposed to elected judges?

      What’s the point to elect them?

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        There are plenty of lawyers prepared to be judges in Mexico, competition and diplomas are gonna be a part of the process. Corrupt judges do have titles and diplomas after all. The democratic element is to complete a pre-selection made by the Congress, the Executive and the Judicial powers, at least for magistrates and the Supreme Court.

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        By competition and diploma.

        What sort of competition and diploma?

        Who do you compete with over what/in what way and who controls the competition/decides the winner? Is anything that influences this process political?

        Does requiring that judges be elected remove requirements for diplomas? It definitely increases competition as you have to compete for the will of the people.

        Why elect him on political bases?

        Everything is political. The laws are determined by politics, every single person’s interpretation of said laws is determined by politics.

        A better question is, how does your system actually effectively remove politics from the process? Or does it simply shift the political aspect from the people themselves to another third party?

        Why shouldn’t the people themselves decide how they want the laws enforced in their own country? Who else should decide if not the people?

        We do not elect an engineer on political criteria, we take the one who seems the best among the candidates.

        Who determines which engineer seems the best off of what criteria? Is it political at all?

        Example: engineer1 is great at building bridges but only alright at apartments, engineer2 is great at building apartments but bad at bridges.

        The people of the city know the city requires more apartments but not more bridges.

        Why should engineer1 get the job for simply being the “better engineer” when he doesn’t fit the needs of the people?

        What’s the point to elect them?

        Why shouldn’t a judge serve and be accountable to the will of the people? Who knows better? Why?

        And how is it not an authoritarian, anti-democratic, political opinion to state that someone does better know what the people need than the people?

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      So how would the judges be appointed under this system

      The state will pick the candidates (currently under the facist control of Morena) and the civilians will be used to validate their picks, regardless of studies, skills, ethics or morals.

      and why is it better than having them chosen from the people?

      It’s not, it’s a revenge because the magistrate has blocked illegal reforms over and over

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        What is fascist about the current government? Oh, you are just plainly lying.

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          Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3] Opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism,[4][5] fascism is placed on the far-right wing within the traditional leftright spectrum.[6][5][7]
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          Here, learn what fascism means, then check it with what morena and the president have been doing, the powers they’ve been giving to the militia, their acts against the separation of powers and their disdain/neglect against human rights and the common people.

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            You seem quite competent in researching from Wikipedia. Could you point me to the part of the article mentioning how fascism is related to women feminist presidents with a PhD, democratically and legtimately elected with a remarkable progressive agenda?

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              You mean the president’s puppet who insults the feminist movement at every opportunity? The one who used misogynist insults against her opposition during the campaign? The one who cheated to get her title? A progressive agenda that includes to keep destroying the jungle, burning fuel oil instead of leaning into green energy and destroying the private property so they can discretionally pick and choose? The one who defends Ana Guevara who keeps stealing and insulting the athletes? The one who decided to completely ignore the LGTB+ movement and supports to keep neglecting the CNDH so they no longer can be heard?

              Wow… She’s so progressive that she is going backwards, just like her puppeteer.

              Also, really cool when you move the post because the things the goverment does hurt your propaganda.

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                The misogynist is her, you say, while you can’t even accept she can think at all by herself.