• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆OP
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    7 days ago

    Indeed, also seems like a direct confrontation between US and Russia would almost certainly go nuclear.

    • StalinStan [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      I feel like mad still applies but this time we don’t have the trust worthy ussr. Like, they multiple times didn’t shoot when it woudl ahve been justified. Modern Russia would absolutely would press the button

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        The fact that it took Putin years of naivety to finally come to terms that war with NATO is inevitable, was one of the primary reasons that the West continues to escalate and repeatedly calls Russia’s bluff, because they knew that Putin is too soft to hit back despite the rhetoric of crossing the “red line”.

        Just look at how soft Russia has handled Ukraine (compared to Israel in Gaza) and how it continues to send energy to Europe and uranium to the US, literally the enemies arming Ukraine to kill Russians, despite under the world’s greatest sanctions.

        Stalin, on the other hand, would absolutely push the button. We know that Mao totally would.

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            But it isn’t suicidal bravado? Even Fidel nearly pushed the button during the Cuban Missile Crisis. The world has been very lucky that he didn’t, and it even scared JFK into rethinking the entire nuclear escalation with the USSR. There is a reason why a nuclear-armed US dared not fuck with Stalin, Mao and Fidel.

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              It’s worth noting that Fidel couldn’t have pressed the button even if he wanted to, because the nukes were under the direct control of the USSR. At one point he did sendt a telegram to Khrushchev saying to launch the nukes if the US invaded Cuba, and IIRC Robert MacNamara later recounted that Fidel told him he would have approved of the use of tactical nuclear weapons.

            • Alaskaball [comrade/them]@hexbear.netM
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              It is suicidal bravado as evidence of your own comment of the suicidal bravado of Fidel’s willingness to plunge the world into nuclear hellfire were he in charge of nuclear armaments and not the Soviet Union.

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        Yeah Putin doesn’t have much time left on this earth. I think he is going to ruin it for the rest of us on his way out.