It’s pretty clear that everyone does not want the war to stop given that the west has rejected multiple offers to stop the war. You’re right that the war can only stop if the west stops blocking the peace process.
Well, Russia has also rejected nany proposals, so that seems rather even.
I was not aware that Ukraine us preventing Russia from retreating out of Ukraine. Do you have a source for that? My understanding was hat Putin was allowed to pull back his troops, ending the war, without asking for permission from Ukraine? Or is it China he needs permission from? I’m confused. Who exactly is bossing Putin around saying he can’t withdraw?
It only seems even when you ignore the fact that Russia is winning the war.
Do you have a source for that? My understanding was hat Putin was allowed to pull back his troops, ending the war, without asking for permission from Ukraine? Or is it China he needs permission from? I’m confused. Who exactly is bossing Putin around saying he can’t withdraw?
That’s not what happened. Russia pulled back troops as part of Istanbul negotiations as a show of good faith. You do sound very confused indeed, which is likely why you keep making incoherent statements here. Perhaps spend a bit of time learning about the subject first?
What does the fact that Russia is winning have to do with anything? If anything, it would mean it’s even easier to end the war by withdrawing as they would not need to be worried about a counterinvasion?
Putin could end the war tomorrow. He chooses not to. Maybe he chooses not to, because he thinks he is winning? It does not matter. What matters is that he chooses not to end it, killing millions.
If you don’t understand what Russia winning militarily has to do with anything there’s really no point continuing the discussion.
Putin could end the war tomorrow. He chooses not to. Maybe he chooses not to, because he thinks he is winning? It does not matter. What matters is that he chooses not to end it, killing millions.
The west continues to use Ukraine as a proxy to try and weaken Russia, killing millions. The west could stop doing this any time, yet chooses not to.
If the west stopped supporting Ukraine, Ukraine would continue to fight for some time still. And after a capitulation there would likely ne purges killing still more Ukrainians.
So no, Ukraine could not end the killings tomorrow. Putin could. He chooses not to. He chooses the death of millions of Russians and Ukrainians. Because he truly does not care.
If the west stopped supporting Ukraine, Ukraine would continue to fight for some time still.
The war would be over immediately.
And after a capitulation there would likely ne purges killing still more Ukrainians.
There wouldn’t.
So no, Ukraine could not end the killings tomorrow. Putin could. He chooses not to. He chooses the death of millions of Russians and Ukrainians. Because he truly does not care.
Yes it could, but you will never accept the reality so the war will keep going and people will keep dying. The blood is on the hands of war mongers such as yourself. People like you are what makes this war possible.
You have the mindset that will be the reason for the end of the world. You literally say “the strong can do whatever the fuck they want”, how is that not warmongering?
You literally say “the strong can do whatever the fuck they want”, how is that not warmongering?
It’s absolutely hilarious that you’re claiming that this hasn’t been the norm already. The west has invaded Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan just to name a few countries in recent years. The only reason you’re upset now is that it’s not your side that’s doing it.
The people who are going to be the reason for the world to end are always the ones who want the wars to keep going. Especially wars where the outcome is obvious to anyone with a functioning brain.
So anyone who oppose you is a capitalist western dog is it?
It’s equally wrong to be sided with the West who invade countries just like to be sided with Russia or China who invades countries or persecute minorities. But since I don’t like tyrants, I must be Western.
The norm: “Let’s kill each other”. Yeah, that looks like something normal. Totally.
I just hope you live long enough to see the second Soviet dissolution. Maybe that day you’ll understand how bad warmongering is.
So anyone who oppose you is a capitalist western dog is it?
I’m just pointing out the sheer bullshit your argument is premised on. The west has been going on a rampage across the globe since USSR fell, and now here you are doing hand wringing about might makes right when a non western country does what’s already been normalized claiming it would be the end of the world.
The norm: “Let’s kill each other”. Yeah, that looks like something normal. Totally.
That’s the world US created under its hegemony since USSR dissolved.
I just hope you live long enough to see the second Soviet dissolution. Maybe that day you’ll understand how bad warmongering is.
The only one doing warmongering here is you. I want the war to end. I love how you aren’t even trying to be coherent here.
It’s interesting how people who want the war to keep going are calling people who want the war to stop war mongers.
I think everyone wants the war to stop, but only one side can actually do that.
It’s pretty clear that everyone does not want the war to stop given that the west has rejected multiple offers to stop the war. You’re right that the war can only stop if the west stops blocking the peace process.
Well, Russia has also rejected nany proposals, so that seems rather even.
I was not aware that Ukraine us preventing Russia from retreating out of Ukraine. Do you have a source for that? My understanding was hat Putin was allowed to pull back his troops, ending the war, without asking for permission from Ukraine? Or is it China he needs permission from? I’m confused. Who exactly is bossing Putin around saying he can’t withdraw?
It only seems even when you ignore the fact that Russia is winning the war.
That’s not what happened. Russia pulled back troops as part of Istanbul negotiations as a show of good faith. You do sound very confused indeed, which is likely why you keep making incoherent statements here. Perhaps spend a bit of time learning about the subject first?
What does the fact that Russia is winning have to do with anything? If anything, it would mean it’s even easier to end the war by withdrawing as they would not need to be worried about a counterinvasion?
Putin could end the war tomorrow. He chooses not to. Maybe he chooses not to, because he thinks he is winning? It does not matter. What matters is that he chooses not to end it, killing millions.
If you don’t understand what Russia winning militarily has to do with anything there’s really no point continuing the discussion.
The west continues to use Ukraine as a proxy to try and weaken Russia, killing millions. The west could stop doing this any time, yet chooses not to.
If the west stopped supporting Ukraine, Ukraine would continue to fight for some time still. And after a capitulation there would likely ne purges killing still more Ukrainians.
So no, Ukraine could not end the killings tomorrow. Putin could. He chooses not to. He chooses the death of millions of Russians and Ukrainians. Because he truly does not care.
The war would be over immediately.
There wouldn’t.
Yes it could, but you will never accept the reality so the war will keep going and people will keep dying. The blood is on the hands of war mongers such as yourself. People like you are what makes this war possible.
You have the mindset that will be the reason for the end of the world. You literally say “the strong can do whatever the fuck they want”, how is that not warmongering?
It’s absolutely hilarious that you’re claiming that this hasn’t been the norm already. The west has invaded Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan just to name a few countries in recent years. The only reason you’re upset now is that it’s not your side that’s doing it.
The people who are going to be the reason for the world to end are always the ones who want the wars to keep going. Especially wars where the outcome is obvious to anyone with a functioning brain.
So anyone who oppose you is a capitalist western dog is it?
It’s equally wrong to be sided with the West who invade countries just like to be sided with Russia or China who invades countries or persecute minorities. But since I don’t like tyrants, I must be Western.
The norm: “Let’s kill each other”. Yeah, that looks like something normal. Totally.
I just hope you live long enough to see the second Soviet dissolution. Maybe that day you’ll understand how bad warmongering is.
I’m just pointing out the sheer bullshit your argument is premised on. The west has been going on a rampage across the globe since USSR fell, and now here you are doing hand wringing about might makes right when a non western country does what’s already been normalized claiming it would be the end of the world.
That’s the world US created under its hegemony since USSR dissolved.
The only one doing warmongering here is you. I want the war to end. I love how you aren’t even trying to be coherent here.