not related to the actual conversation you’re having but i just have to ask; what defines people? a person? is the requirement for being a person, to be human? what would we call other people with the same perceptions as humans, then? from my point of view, people define anyone with equal abstract level of understanding as us, with concepts of culture, medicine and ceremonial traditions. so technically, elephants could be considered people, too (and legally speaking, is being seriously considered as such by some international groups and governments).