• OrangeSlice
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    8 months ago

    Without a socialist party (as in, completely purged and free of all bourgeois influence), there’s isn’t a whole lot worth voting for at the federal level. Democrats repeatedly show that they are incapable of resisting the Republicans and take L’s constantly (see here).

    I encourage everyone to instead organize with local political orgs that can eventually build this power. The DSA being the largest currently available (and just as flawed as the other options one may have, ofc)

      • OrangeSlice
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        38 months ago

        I agree with your assesment of the DSA, but our audience here isn’t ready for that. I want them to get into the DSA where we can continue trashing on them until they do something more useful.

        They aren’t going to go from defending Democratic Party failures to Maoist Third-Worldist guerilla fighters (the correct sect of socialists, of course) overnight.

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      If you don’t feel it’s worth keeping as many Rs out of Federal roles, then no amount of examples are going to change your mind.

      You can’t ignore the federal level because the Dems aren’t liberal enough.

      • OrangeSlice
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        Democrats are extremely liberal, making them my political enemies.

      • lightrush
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        Here’s an example. More Rs can make it a whole lot more difficult to organize any counter movements, labor, political or otherwise.

    • Hot Saucerman
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      Your see here link is empty and you accidentally double-posted this comment, friend.

      • OrangeSlice
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        Yeah just fixed that, “see here” was meant to refer to this student debt situation in the OP

        • Hot Saucerman
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          Damn, I was hoping for a well documented compendium of Democrat L’s that have been taken because they’re too cowardly to stand up for their constituents.

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            (in case anyone wants a summary off the top of my head)

            • Failed to protect gay marriage (until the Supreme Court stepped in and did it for them, could be easily reversed any time by those dipshits)
            • Failed to protect abortion rights (left it to the Supreme Court, and here we are)
            • Failed to abolish any student debt
            • Failed to reduce wealth inequality by any meaningful measure.
            • Failed to promote a peaceful foreign policy (Obama and Biden)
            • Failed to implement card check
            • Failed to win elections with obvious unforced errors like running Hillary Clinton, probably the only political figure more despised than Donald Trump.
            • Failed to deschedule marijuana, and other drugs that aren’t particularly harmful
            • Failed to meaningfully reduce healthcare costs, instead implementing a rebranded “Romneycare” access to insurance reform.