China, France, Russia, the UK and the US said that a nuclear war "cannot be won and must never be fought," quoting Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev at what became the zenith of the nuclear arms race.
Instigating violence is a crime. The speech is incidental. If you could dance a jig that was guaranteed to start a riot, you’d be prosecuted for that even if you dance silently.
Exact same argument applies to anything that’s deemed to be a crime. Any speech that’s disallowed is done on the basis that it’s a crime. Using your logic no countries limit free speech, they’re just limiting crimes and free speech is completely incidental.
Any speech that’s disallowed is done on the basis that it’s a crime.
In sane places, sure. In some more tyrannical places, the speech itself is the crime. “You’ve insulted the king!” or “The commissar deems your criticisms of the government to be sedition!” and so on.
There’s no fraud in those things. No violence occurred (or would ever have occurred due to the speech in any plausible circumstances). No plausible harm occurred… unless you worry that when other people think things you don’t want them to think that this is harm.
Exact same argument applies to anything that’s deemed to be a crime. Any speech that’s disallowed is done on the basis that it’s a crime. Using your logic no countries limit free speech, they’re just limiting crimes and free speech is completely incidental.
In sane places, sure. In some more tyrannical places, the speech itself is the crime. “You’ve insulted the king!” or “The commissar deems your criticisms of the government to be sedition!” and so on.
There’s no fraud in those things. No violence occurred (or would ever have occurred due to the speech in any plausible circumstances). No plausible harm occurred… unless you worry that when other people think things you don’t want them to think that this is harm.
None of that is a counter argument to the point I made.