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  • Repeat after me: Political Opponents Are Not Enemies.

    What unites us is greater than what divides us. You think the country should be run this way, I think it should be run that way. That doesn’t make me an idiot or your enemy. It doesn’t mean I hate you. Your views are a result of your history, mine a result of mine. Views can change if presented with a compelling and respectful argument. But if you tell me I’m stupid for supporting a particular policy, that isn’t going to change me; it just makes me think you’re resorting to ad hominem because you can’t construct a coherent explanation.

    Here in the UK we just had elections. My wife voted one way, I voted another. It hasn’t made the slightest difference to our marriage.


  • Sorry I’m not well enough versed in American politics to know who’s blue or red.

    Whether you should vote or not doesn’t depend on the people around you. It is your right to have your say. The result is the cumulative effect of everyone in your area doing the same. Whether you think you’re surrounded by millions of blues or millions of reds doesn’t make any difference. Your perception may be incorrect, and your analysis, that there is literally zero chance that your vote will matter, is incorrect.

    Nobody knows the results of an election until the votes are in and have been counted. It doesn’t matter that your area has always been red, blue, green, turquoise, pink or whatever. Areas can change allegiance, and it is by individuals getting out and voting.

    If you don’t vote, you strengthen the position of those who vote the other way. It is not considered a protest vote because the system would prefer to consider this as voter apathy. If you want to register a protest vote and “none of the above” isn’t an option, find the official way to spoil your ballot paper and do that, but whatever you do, get out and vote.


  • True. So the most appropriate solution would be for JSO to perform a LIMITED disruptive protest. This would - and we know because it did - hit the papers and everyone would know about it, spreading the message, and aside from those directly affected would gain them a lot of support.

    But then you stop. You’ve done what you needed to. The message is out there, people are talking and thinking about it. And writing to their MPs to express support. And changing the nation’s direction via legitimate democratic process.

    This is where JSO went so badly wrong. They didn’t/wouldn’t stop. They kept on disrupting the lives of those around them. They kept ignoring complaints from the public and warnings from the police. They went on to chuck paint at artwork, snooker tables and Stonehenge*. By becoming a bunch of complete and utter wankmuppets they have destroyed any public support they might have had and are now little more than environmental terrorists.

    *Yeah I know the details, decomposable powder blah blah. The point is: NOBODY CARES. The only response they get now is “oh no not fucking JSO again”.


  • They planned a peaceful protest

    No they didn’t. They planned to shut the M25, one of the busiest motorways in the UK. Shutting that would force traffic onto all the roads around it, progressively gridlocking the entire south-east and causing misery for at least tens of thousands of people, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it ran into six figures.

    There’s nothing peaceful about a massive DoS attack on the nation’s infrastructure.

    BTW before you bleat about protest being banned in the UK, no it isn’t. Peaceful non-disruptive protest is enshrined in law and everyone has the right to protest about anything they want. What protesters don’t have the right to do is disrupt the lives of those around them or to try to force the nation to capitulate to their demands by holding the country to hostage, which is exactly what those JSO wankers are trying to do, and is why they are so hated by so many people in this country.

    JSO’s message may well be 100% correct. It’s not the message that’s the problem, it’s trying to force it down everyone’s throats. You know how much you hate vegans and evangelical Christians? Well JSO is both of them put together on steroids.








  • letsgo@lemm.eeto196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJesus rule
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    No, what he’s saying is that since all actions start with a thought (for example, one does not just commit adultery; there’s a period of “I wouldn’t mind a bit of that”), it can be helpful to consider the thought as bad as the action for the purpose of weeding that behaviour out of our lives. Not that the thought is as bad as the action, because clearly it isn’t. Continuing with the example: when we find ourselves thinking like that, it is at that point we should catch ourselves and think about something else instead. Attempting to stop yourself just before you rip her knickers off is unlikely to be quite as successful.

    Similarly 29 and 30 are not suggestions of actual self-mutilation. Your eye cannot cause you to sin; it is exaggeration for the sake of making the point. You see something, you think about it, then you act on that thought. But if the act is sinful then we should attempt to stop the act at the earliest possible point.






  • My favourite kind of updates are those that happen on a Friday afternoon where you push all the buttons you think you have to, and it looks like it’s getting on with it, so you switch the monitor off and go home for the weekend, then when you come back in on Monday there’s another popup that says “you have to push this button for no reason before I’ll install these updates” and then you have to sit there watching it update because it’s sat there for the entire fucking weekend waiting for you to push that stupid pointless button.

    I wish there was a checkbox that says “Complete updates without requiring any further user input. Wanna reboot? Reboot. Wanna download some shit? Download some shit. Wanna start installing some shit? Install some shit. Wanna repeat over and over? Repeat over and over” or something like that.