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  • I have noticed this trend. On the one hand, “Truth has a liberal bias” has always been true. If a community is geared towards truth and evidence, like as not it will lean left. There is copious evidence for this, for any random topic.

    On the other hand, it has resulted in a lot of “I downvote complexity” behavior, which is, in my view, problematic. It is very easy to take stances of ideological purity online, and behave as if any recognition of greater complexity is EVIL!!1! I see this again and again. This is a way to make your ideological movement irrelevant and unworkable.

    As much as folks decry the rigor of the MAGA right, where fealty to Trump is the only virtue, the Progressive left exhibits the exact same rigor, the exact same intolerance for deviation from its allies. Both Progressives and MAGAts see this as a virtue, but it very much is not: it locks you into a worldview that eliminates important complexity and any ability to see things from alternate perspectives. If you have a belief that your perspective is the only correct one, then the vast majority of the time, you’re wrong.




  • He’s been around a long time, and has negotiated a lot of deals between the Dems and the GOP. Someone willing to compromise with half the country isn’t someone to hate on, it’s someone who wants to get some good done.

    Look at all the labor union success under Biden, compared to the phenomenal downward trend of labor power ever since Reagan fired the air traffic controllers. Decades of failure of union power until Biden. Under Biden, the autoworkers got their first major win in decades, railroad workers got a better deal than they were originally asking for due to Biden’s negotiators (after he had ordered them back to work), unionization at Starbucks, Amazon… none of this happens without Biden, the first POTUS to walk a picket line. You want to hate on neoliberalism, I’ll join you, but Biden is not that guy.




  • Age caught up with Biden.

    He did a massive amount of good for all the disaffected angry voters out there, far more good than any president of the last 40 years. Inflation was bad, but not as bad as elsewhere, and we didn’t go into a recession when everyone predicted we would. His programs were most targeted at the working class, whose wages rose more than under any other recent President. All the lip service pols give about helping the middle class, none of them have done it except ol’ Joe. Most other Dem pols have a strong neo-liberal streak, but Biden is an old-school union Dem.

    So many GOP pols taking credit in their districts for programs funded by Biden policies, but which they voted against. So many angry voters who are so much better off because of Biden policies voted for the guy that’s going to rip it all up. Truth doesn’t matter, propaganda wins, “throw the bums out, I’m cranky” is as far as most voters get in their thinking, and it’s going to destroy the country.


  • It gets harder to continually extend sympathy and solidarity with all of the fucknuts who are ostensibly allies on the left, when they focus on a single media-focused disaster, and they try to “send a message” to their own side, by backstabbing them and helping the fascist who will be 1000x worse.

    Progressives who proclaim their hate for both parties are simply binary thinkers whose privilege insulates them from the consequences of their “principled stands”. They wonder why the country doesn’t just hand all power over to Progressives… go blow.



  • FloontoMemesVoting for the lesser evil is still evil
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    1 month ago

    Too many commenters here do not understand anything about how any of it works, especially how first past the post voting works. Progressives do not seem to understand that the system has not rejected them, but the voters have.

    It is mostly relentless propaganda for the oligarchs that has captured the country. That’s the problem, and it is not fixed by any of the suggestions here.