“Grinch” and “Scrooge” may not be synonyms, but they have both been used to describe Jews like me for the crime of not celebrating a Christian holiday.
@FlyingSquid The only thing you should do in these moments is point at them and laugh at their ignorance… :P
I mean, anyone who expects a person to be enthused about a holiday from a religion they don’t identify with is seriously suffering from a case of “the stoopid”. So, pointing and laughing at them is perfectly acceptable, IMHO. 😬
TBH Christmas in the west is mostly cultural, not religious.
Nobody except for the ultra religious nowadays cares about Christ. And I don’t mean it in a grumpy way, I mean it literally: even in the cheesy hallmark stereotype the “grinches” don’t lack love for Christ, they lack cheer and whatever the cHrIsTmAs sPiRiT is.
Modern day Christmas has origin in religion but has nothing to do with it anymore. If you like lights and reindeers and presents under the tree and fat guys with white beards celebrate it, regardless of whether you are Jewish, Muslim or atheist like a lot of those who do it. If you don’t like those things then don’t, there is no need to motivate it religiously.
“I’m a jew/atheist/muslim therefore I don’t care about Christmas” makes about as much sense as “I’m not a bipedal mouse therefore I don’t care about Disneyland”
Most of the traditions around modern Christmas don’t even have their roots in Christianity. They’re either from various different faiths, or newer inventions of capitalism.
Well i certainly lack love for christ…. And if you enjoy the secular aspects, that’s you’re business, but please don’t stand there and tell me the holiday is entirely secular, not when literally every church here is having a Christmas Eve service and “the true meaning of Christmas” is being put on blast every bit as much as the shitty holiday music is.
Also? I’m not a bipedal mouse and I couldn’t give two rat farts about Disneyland either. (Okay, so one doesn’t follow other, but both are true.)
Oh yes. Especially when I was in school. And I don’t mean just from the kids.
This was close to 40 years ago and I still haven’t forgotten my elementary school teacher telling me to stop being such a Grinch and sing the Christmas songs for the school Christmas show because “we sang the dreidel song for you.”
I hate that fucking dreidel song, by the way. It feels like some Nazi wrote the worst holiday song ever just so he could blame the Jews for it.
“Grinch” and “Scrooge” may not be synonyms, but they have both been used to describe Jews like me for the crime of not celebrating a Christian holiday.
@FlyingSquid The only thing you should do in these moments is point at them and laugh at their ignorance… :P
I mean, anyone who expects a person to be enthused about a holiday from a religion they don’t identify with is seriously suffering from a case of “the stoopid”. So, pointing and laughing at them is perfectly acceptable, IMHO. 😬
TBH Christmas in the west is mostly cultural, not religious.
Nobody except for the ultra religious nowadays cares about Christ. And I don’t mean it in a grumpy way, I mean it literally: even in the cheesy hallmark stereotype the “grinches” don’t lack love for Christ, they lack cheer and whatever the cHrIsTmAs sPiRiT is.
Modern day Christmas has origin in religion but has nothing to do with it anymore. If you like lights and reindeers and presents under the tree and fat guys with white beards celebrate it, regardless of whether you are Jewish, Muslim or atheist like a lot of those who do it. If you don’t like those things then don’t, there is no need to motivate it religiously.
“I’m a jew/atheist/muslim therefore I don’t care about Christmas” makes about as much sense as “I’m not a bipedal mouse therefore I don’t care about Disneyland”
Most of the traditions around modern Christmas don’t even have their roots in Christianity. They’re either from various different faiths, or newer inventions of capitalism.
Yep, all the holidays are just for selling more shit.
Well i certainly lack love for christ…. And if you enjoy the secular aspects, that’s you’re business, but please don’t stand there and tell me the holiday is entirely secular, not when literally every church here is having a Christmas Eve service and “the true meaning of Christmas” is being put on blast every bit as much as the shitty holiday music is.
Also? I’m not a bipedal mouse and I couldn’t give two rat farts about Disneyland either. (Okay, so one doesn’t follow other, but both are true.)
Good call.
Happy holidays from our rainbow Christmas tree with a Star of David on top to yours.
Like, directly to your face with them knowing that you were Jewish?
Oh yes. Especially when I was in school. And I don’t mean just from the kids.
This was close to 40 years ago and I still haven’t forgotten my elementary school teacher telling me to stop being such a Grinch and sing the Christmas songs for the school Christmas show because “we sang the dreidel song for you.”
I hate that fucking dreidel song, by the way. It feels like some Nazi wrote the worst holiday song ever just so he could blame the Jews for it.
That sucks. I’m cracking up about the Nazi dreidel song.