• balderdash@lemmy.zip
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    People think that Jews in Israel are a monolith, but they actually come from different places and so have vastly different points of view.

    For example, European Jews tend to favor a two-state solution whereas Arab and Russian Jews tend to disagree.

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      Also people who think all all Jews are Israelis. My wife is Canadian Jewish, and she’s not very religious or political. I’m Latino and I know more about Israel than she does, but people sometimes try to put Israel’s baggage on her or her family because of their ancestry. She considers herself Canadian, and her Jewish heritage is a cultural one, not a location.

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      Disagree as in Free Palestine or as in eliminate all moslems?

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        Free Palestine

        You’re missing one state solution. That’s what’s essentially going to happen as things go. They’re depopulating gaza with the plan to eventually grant citizenship to the reduced population of Palestinians so they can maintain a jewish majority. West bank alone wouldn’t cause a loss in majority, but Gaza would. They won’t grant right of return. Though that is genocide.

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          But is that what the Arab Jews want?

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            Arab Jews were expelled from their homeland (every single Arab/Muslim country) so they don’t exactly have a fond memory of living among Muslims.

            But they live just fine with Israeli Arabs and just as any other human being they want to live in peace.

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              Only after the creation of Israel and he Nabqa. Berore that Jews and Muslims lived mostly in peace.

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                Forgive me, but I’m going to copy-paste another post of mine.

                Allahdad 1839 pogrom

                Mawza Exile 1679-1680

                Damascus Affair 1840

                Granada Massacre 1066

                1834 looting of Safed

                And more
                “In 1656, all Jews were expelled from Isfahan and forced to convert to Islam because of a common belief that their Jewishness was impure.”
                “in 1661 they were allowed to revert to Judaism, although they were still required to wear a distinctive patch on their clothing.”

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                Meh, if you can call the dhimmi status a peaceful life, yeah I guess.

                Anyway as soon as a Jewish state was declared, all the Arab countries attacked it, I wonder why. So now they didn’t want Jews in their Arab countries, and they didn’t want them in their Jewish country. So where exactly were they supposed to live?

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                  They didn’t want a Jewish colonial state to start annexing Arab land and to drive out the native Arabs, which is exactly what has happened.

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                    I don’t think the word “colonial” means what you think it means.

                    But just to make sure, what do you think the word colonial means?

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                    What do you mean colonial? Jews are indigenous to Judea and they’ve never left. All the lands were either bought to Arabs or conquered after wars that the Arabs themselves started.