• LordBullingdon@hexbear.net
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    11 months ago

    That 18-34 is brutal.
    Boomer discontent was dealt with by giving them a lot of what they wanted, obviously there was a pretty big stick to go along with the carrot but they benefited from capitalism more than any generation before them.
    But the point of that compromise was that future generations were going to be fucked by a world where everything is privatised and everyone is a rent serf.
    So how is millenial/genz discontent going to be dealt with?
    Boomers are almost already defeated in the electoral system, eg Corbyn, Sanders. We know from how the status quo responded that even the milquetoast socialism they offered is totally unacceptable.
    Are there gonna be 60s style social engineering programs (mkUltra/chaos/gladio etc); are we going to get some kind of rentier UBI, are they just going to override democracy for as long as they can? There will be some kind of co-ordinated attempts to deal with the fact the that ‘young’ (really it’s more like everyone under 40) just absolutely do not want what there selling, even if they haven’t reached the point of properly organising to oppose it yet.

    As for Israel specifically, they bet their whole future on permanent US support, the current conflict alone would be unsustainable without US aid. Seems like a bad bet with both the far right and the left eroding the power of mainstream America

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      11 months ago

      That 18-34 is brutal

      Yes. Though I would also point out that POC opinion is basically within the margin of error of the same result. Makes me even angrier that people like Juliana Marguiles can say that black folks only support Palestine because they’re brainwashed and feel comfortable walking around in public, and otherwise face zero consequences.

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      So how is millenial/genz discontent going to be dealt with?

      i’ve lost track at the number of polls i’ve seen like this throughout the decades as one of the eldest millennials and the biggest take away from every single one is that the ancient adage that we start to track conservatives as we age still mostly holds true. (i’m not sure if i should be glad that i missed the memo).

      if things stay on the same course then political leanings will change; but watching Palestinian support drop from the high 60’s in the late 1990’s/early 2000’s into the mid 40’s today from the millennial cohort and watching genz do the same thing makes me believe that this country will be forced to change before our politics ever do.

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        There would be some change but generally the shift is not occurring in the way it did with boomers. The reason people get more conservative as they age is that their wealth/material conditions improve, which has pretty fucked implications for humanity under capitalism I guess, but also Millenials are not getting their share of the pie and the truth is they never will (there will never be a mass transfer of wealth from boomers to Millenials - watch house prices crash as soon as the boomer grip on society disappears). Gen X moved right to a lesser extent than Boomers, Millenials are shifting right far less than Gen X did.
        Millenials in the late 90s wouldve been children, it sounds like your referring to Gen X

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              11 months ago

              do you have a well respected independent 3rd party that agrees with this or is this your own world view?

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              I’m surprised to see this counterfactual argument here and wonder if you’re acquainted with the history of the word:

              Members of this demographic cohort are known as millennials because the oldest became adults around the turn of the millennium. Authors William Strauss and Neil Howe, known for creating the Strauss–Howe generational theory, are widely credited with naming the millennials. They coined the term in 1987, around the time children born in 1982 were entering kindergarten, and the media were first identifying their prospective link to the impending new millennium as the high school graduating class of 2000.

              I remember this very well because I was a member of the class of 2000. 🧓 and yes, I do remember the 80s.

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      So how is millenial/genz discontent going to be dealt with?

      We’ll be liquidated by war, climate change, etc.

      honestly it doesn’t seem like the younger generations will ever engage in organized opposition to Capitalism anyways. I think the social control is too good.