• M500
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    I was just thinking about why many things on Linux are better. Like the install process on Linux is years ahead of windows.

    Then it occurred to me that windows only improves things that can make them money. If you need to install windows, then you can deal with the crappy installer.

    Linux devs improve the parts they think need to be better. The decisions are not guided by money and can be made without bias.

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      Now that you’ve got the idea apply it to everything in capitalist society. Especially if something is owned by shareholders.

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      Most people don’t install windows. It comes pre installed on something they bought. Microsoft probably puts more time into automating the process.

      Also, last time I installed windows it was a breeze. I haven’t installed Linux in at least a decade, so I can’t speak for that.

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      Sounds like the decisions about what to make, how to make it and for whom to make it are done by the people doing the work. 🤔🫢

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      Linux devs improve the parts they think need to be better. The decisions are not guided by money and can be made without bias.

      Sounds pretty communist

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      The install process on windows is clicking a few buttons.

      For the vast majority of users it’s a way better experience.

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        From my experience(installing windows 10, 11, linux mint and nobara), installing linux is way easier than installing windows

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        The install process on windows is clicking a few buttons.

        That’s the default tracking experience, if you fall for all the dark patterns. Was a while ago, hunh?

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          There’s that one screen where you disable telemetry, which I’ve always consider a part of the install process, but is there anything malicious other than that? The process as a whole is quite straightforward in my experience.

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    Microsoft loves open source nowadays.

    People do a huge amount of their work for free.

    They’re also heavily invested in Linux for the cloud. So any work done there helps them.

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      The only thing Microsoft is investing in is marketing to fool people into thinking they’re your friend. Remember that Copilot is automated open source license violation at scale. They’re building a tool to take your work, without crediting you, so others can use it without compensating you.

      This is “love” in the same way an abusive relationship is “love”.

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      With Microsoft, any love shown could well be the Embrace part of the strategy that will lead to Extend and then Extinguish just as soon as they can figure those parts out. They might already have a plan.

      The fact they’ve been able to turn things to their advantage so far does not mean they don’t have such a plan. Or won’t ever have one.

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        The fact that so many people so firmly believe that MS is one of the good guys now is just bewildering to me. Like were they not alive in the 90s? This is classic embrace, extend, extinguish, as you say.

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          In the 90s, Microsoft was pure evil. Now they are the “good guys.” Late 90s early 2000s, Google was the good guys, now they are evil. So the pendulum of perception swings.

          Funny how all these folks embrace Linux on the cloud side. I don’t think they’ll be able to extinguish that. If they do manage to, they will be shooting them selves in the foot.

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            Never trust a corporation. It will almost always do whatever makes the most money for C-levels, shareholders and end-of-year profits, and when it doesn’t, we should be even more wary of its actions. Occasionally these unspecified actions and choices align with the preferences of people outside the corporation and this makes the corporation “one of the good guys” for a while.

            Corporations have no right to complain about being called out on this. In fact, they’d do better to acknowledge it. All it needs is one change of CEO and the whole corporation can change direction in a heartbeat. Twitter is an example of this.

            Also see: The fable of the scorp(orat)ion and the frog.

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          FWIW the 90s ended over 20 years ago. A lot of people were not alive yet, or were only children at the height of Microsofts tomfuckery.

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          The 90s ended 23 years ago. And to not just live through but also “care” about MsS doings in the 90s someone needs to be even older.

          Its really not that far fetched that a lot of younger people may see MS in a more positive way than you do apparently.

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        Seems unlikely with how they work now. You also can’t really extinguish foss.

        .Net is cross platform and open source as well now.

        Maybe if Linux becomes a competitor in the desktop market. But I don’t see that happening any time soon.

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    Ah, the late 1900s when you could still pretend that Apple was the choice of the counterculture for no credible reason except for Apple marketing. Slacktivism, my dude. Worthless.

    This meme is truly ancient. I bet those little iMacs go for a pretty penny on eBay now after everyone tossed them in the garbage circa 2003.

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    Holy shit, this is an old old meme. This image has got to be at least 25 years old

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    When the program is free, it’s socialism. The more free the program is, the more socialism it is. When the source is free, it’s communism.

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      Ironically, the freer the source, the less communism.

      GPL: our source is free and yours must be too.
      BSD/MIT: our source is free and you can’t blame us.
      Public domain: do whatever the hell you want.

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    Talk shit on FOSS, by comparing it to communism like it’s a bad thing, on Lemmy.

    Now there’s a message this place will love, lol.

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      it seems like a pro-communist programming message to me. the red dude looks super cool and supportive.

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        Yeah, he’s probably giving mad tips to the dev and he looks happy, so we know the red dude is not just a dickhead.

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        Of course, and it’s an old image too, but it still amused me thinking of the contrast between the message and the current audience.

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          There isn’t, the message itself is satire. The audience is precisely who the message is for, it’s making fun of Microsoft comparing FOSS to Communism, parodying red scare propaganda.

          Unless I’m misunderstanding you, of course.

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    Well at least they are slighty more open to open source software since it make them money.

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      They’re just making face, doing what is necessary to prove they’re not evil, cuz open source software is in now.

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        I highly doubt that. They are open-sourcing a small suite because it is economical to do so. Closed source means constantly having to re-train newcomers. Normalizing VsCode and friends will go a long ways. Same thing Google did with their IT certs.

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        Nah, nobody cares about their monopoly anymore. They got outmaneuvered on mobile, and they’re stuck being a desktop OS while the rest of the market moves around them.

        Happens a lot with monopolies. IBM was the biggest name in mainframes, but their PC division made a standard that other companies would take and run.

        Microsoft wouldn’t have put as much effort into WSL if it was just performative.

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          Still, everything enterprise related or video/audio revolves around them (and Macs of course). That is one of their biggest assets now, as well as the “a perscription OS” spin they’re trying to pull on Windows. Also, their subscription services, people that do all sorts of businesses use them a lot.

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            Even enterprise stuff has largely moved away from Microsoft. They are still dominant in some areas like the business desktop space/office 365/active directory, but ‘enterprise’ apps running on Windows Server (and associated stuff like IIS) with tight Microsoft integrations are a thing of the past.

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              Yeah, that’s what I meant by enterprise use, not IIS. And they’re still dominant on the audio/video production market. Basically, every aspect that is not just your everyday browsing or small office work.

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        Microsoft open-sourced all of dotnet core, which is arguably the largest and most well-maintained (with exceptions) collection of tools/platforms for developers that exsists to date. So, I don’t really agree that they’re just “making face”

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          They’re absolutely just “making face”. For each thing Microsoft frees, how many more are proprietary shit? Visual Studio, proprietary. Windows, proprietary. Etc.