• cecinestpasunbot
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    1 year ago

    They are explicitly talking about unaliving every Jew in existence.

    If that’s the case and not just a blatant lie, I’m sure you wouldn’t mind quoting where in their charter they explicitly say that.

    • LordOfTheChia@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Not the person you replied to, but:

      https://irp.fas.org/world/para/docs/880818a.htm

      ‘Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.’ (Preamble)

      Also some fun sections

      ‘[Peace] initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement… Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the infidels as arbitrators in the lands of Islam… There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility.’ (Article 13)

      ‘Egypt was, to a great extent, removed from the circle of struggle [against Zionism] through the treacherous Camp David Agreement. The Zionists are trying to draw other Arab countries into similar agreements in order to bring them outside the circle of struggle…Leaving the circle of struggle against Zionism is high treason, and cursed be he who perpetrates such an act.’ (Article 32)

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas_Charter#Text_of_the_1988_charter

      https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2023/10/hamas-covenant-israel-attack-war-genocide/675602/

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        1 year ago

        What’s the point? If you really think those quotes mean Hamas wants to “unalive” every Jewish person in existence then you need to work on your reading comprehension. I can’t help anyone with that.

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      1 year ago

      I like that we have to hold your hand and walk you through every step of the way for you to even concede an inch. But holy hell you get to screech nonsense left and right like it’s gospel. It’s clear you have a limited understanding of who Hamas or the PLO are. Don’t worry, I’ll follow up with the receipts even though I know you’ll shift the goalposts again.

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        1 year ago

        I posted the quotes from Hamas’ 1988 charter, so that others following the thread will see what they’re really about and not get gaslit by useful idiots who gloss over their intent to simply kill every Israeli and their complete disregard for any peaceful solution.

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          1 year ago

          I just saw that thanks. I worry that people are unable to have nuanced conversation. It’s either supporting genocide or liberating Palestine. There is no in between.

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        1 year ago

        So where’s the quote then? Where are the receipts you’re talking about? All I see are personal attacks and nothing of substance.