• Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      Accelerationism is the greatest lie communists ever invented

      1. Communists didn’t invent accelerationism

      2. Communists don’t support accelerationism

      3. Refusing to vote for your fascist candidate over the ultra fascist candidate is not accelerationism

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        Liberals come in all smug about how they know better when the only meaningful difference between most of ‘their guys’ and most conservatives is that ‘their guys’ are corporate sellouts who think companies should be allowed to make ads that show gay people and minorities

        While those companies use literal slavery outside the US, and the Supreme Court just shrugs and says “we’re a smol bean country that doesn’t have any jurisdiction here since it’s happening outside our borders even though the perpetrators all have addresses here” by a 8-1 majority (the lone dissenter being a fucking chud that thinks the court should have been MORE on the side of the slavers)

        But yeah no, condescend more libs, between that and Roe disappearing under a Liberal Presidency and legislature, there’s lots of reasons to vote lib

        Like if I want to proclaim myself a loser that cares but not really

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          We’re getting fascism regardless of whether it’s Genocidin’ Biden or Obomber or any GOP ghoul in the white house. The past ten years alone should make it clear that US democracy is a paper-thin facade over corporate oligarchy.

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          Hey here’s some free advice if you’re going to try this line you can’t give away the prestige by telling people up front nothing will happen until drms have a super majority in all three branches.

          You gotta wait until after everybody begrudgingly votes for your shitty candidate to explain why anybody who believed he’d do antmyrhing he campaigned on are naive rubes.

          You’re not gonna motivate people by telling them dems will do something to benefit them right after Mississippi elects its second democratic senator.

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          Noticeable change takes more time than you’d expect

          The Kingdom of Conscience will be exactly as it is now. Moralists don’t really have beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child’s toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded. Centrism isn’t change – not even incremental change. It is control. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it. Look up at the sky, at the dark shapes of Coalition airships hanging there. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in moralism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth.

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          Democrats had control of all 3 branches and supermajority under Obama’s first few years and they still failed to accomplish anything good, instead giving massive bailouts to banks and expanding the war on terror and the surveillance state. Their one measly accomplishment, the ACA, was half-baked and watered down by the GOP despite getting none of their support. Then the ACA was slowly ripped apart by the forces of capital until it no longer de facto existed.

          If this is the best the democrats can ever accomplish then they deserve to lose forever until they are disbanded

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            But to this day if you bring this up liberals have a three page essay pre typed on why dems can’t be expected to do anything with a veto proof majority in all three branches.

            “No you don’t understand they actually only had that supermajority for a year and a half and didn’t do anything”

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          Ever noticed that when a democrat is president, he’s an uwu smol bean who can’t possibly be expected to do anything, but when a republican is president it’s an existential threat to the entire world?

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            To be fair this is true but it’s entirely by dems choosing.

            When republicans are president they do whatever they want and then when dems complain say “what are you going to do about it” and then the dems go aww shucks and go home.

            When a dem is president they say they can’t do anything and then when their voters complain they say “what are you gonna do about it, vote for a republican :)”

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      Define accelerationism.

      I don’t see a lot of communists talking about voting for Trump so things get worse to trigger a revolution.

      What I see a lot of is people refusing to support genocide just because the person pulling the trigger is wearing a blue tie.

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      For Christ’s sake, add something to clarify your own stance on the topic before talking like this. It’ll just turn into the exact argument we always have otherwise.