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Illustrations thinkers: CHURCH AND STATE SHOULD BE SEPARATED! French revolutionaries: CHURCH AND STATE SHOULD BE SEPARATED! US founding fathers: CHURCH AND STATE SHOULD BE SEPARATED!
Republicans for some reason: Yeah, I’m pretty sure our founding fathers wanted a theocratic dictatorship
**source: trust me bro**How can they get away with being so historically wrong and doing such a revisionism?
Spend 50 years dismantling public education and you, too, can get the rubes to believe whatever the hell you want.
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church = state
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Illustration
Do you mean enlightenment?
Yes, In spanish is called “La Ilustración” and didn’t realize that there is a different word for it in english.
Interesting, cheers
They don’t think they’re wrong. They just think the people who tried this before didn’t do it right.
I’m no constitutionalist, but I’m pretty sure the part of the 1st Amendment that says “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion” covers this, as a version of the original “nor shall any national religion be established”, but that’s just me.
Mike knows, he just doesn’t care
Typical.
Yeah, but but… they didn’t mean it. See, they were actually all devout fundamentalists who wanted a corporate Christian state and this is my fantasy so you all have to believe me. Just go with it. Believe me. Ok? Please?
Ok, take my money.
But but but!
Clearly, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion” means that if somebody wants to establish a national religion, Congress can’t pass laws to stop them! Bwahahah - checkmate athiests!
It’s like arguing with rocks.
I’d call this guy a fucking idiot but he knows exactly what he’s saying. A threat to the republic
The thing is these idiots play dumb games.
One of the reasons we did that whole war thing for independence was specifically because there was this King guy who was head of the Church and State. And the big problemo with the King being that way was when say Religious cult group A had their King, Religious cult group B would get persecuted. And then of course round and round we go with that.
Not to mention that our Country was already pretty aware of what “just a little bit of mixing religion and legislation” would ultimately end up as. For a concrete example, if anyone is wondering, the notion behind Members of Congress buying stocks is so that they could reap the economy they created win or lose. And we all see how awesome and not completely off the rails that went. So, imagine how that’s working for us all with Stocks, and then just replace stocks with
INSERT ONE OF THOSE RELIGIONS HERE. It’ll be F-U-N times for sure.But here’s the bigger catch. All of them already know that. They think that their Religious cult group will be the one that comes out on top and if not, they’ll be able to just slide on into whatever religious cult group takes over. Sorta how all the Republicans were against crazy ass politics until they saw that they could fucking cash in on it. But then they can only cash in on it until they can no longer cash in on it and the crazy party turns on them.
That’s the fun thing about bombastic politics. At some point, someone WAY MORE BOMBASTIC than you comes around and drinks your milkshake. And surprise, the Founding Fathers already knew all of this, the USA distinctly does not have a monopoly on crazy ass shit going on in official government business. And so Speaker Johnson is sitting there acting like “Oh yeah, I’m totally not going to be some mindless jerk who’ll be the first against the wall when the religious revolution comes.” And the thing is, is he’s a stepping stone like many of the dumb ass bombastic Republicans. He will absolutely be “some mindless jerk who was the first against the wall when the religious revolution came.” They will absolutely Mike Pence his ass.
That’s the ignorance of these fuckers. They think they’ll somehow bubble up into the winner’s circle, and in reality he’s just breakfast for some even bigger fish that’s looking for Speaker Johnson to open the box and let loose. You all saw it. Second shit got real on January 6th, all those true Trumpers started getting into “mad dash for the door” mode. You saw them right after when they came back to debate votes, everyone’s voice cracking, nerves frayed, folks aren’t coming to the lectern with the same kind of passion. About to be literally ripped apart by a hundred hands pulling you in every direction does that to a person. They talk big game, they want to open doors that shouldn’t be open, but suddenly when they realize they’re not going to make it to the glorious nation they were trying to make… Oh I think enough is enough suddenly.
Which by the way, you can tell by the way Graham is talking there and how he was talking earlier before he almost became a Senator hamburger, he was fucking spooked. Shame that lesson only lasted him about a week. They all don’t know it, but they all are going to get themselves killed by the very people they were trying to empower. They ain’t powerful men, they’re pawns.
Yeah. Of course the founding fathers wanted faith to be a big part of the country.
Faith in the principles of the Constitution.
Like the separation of church and state.
Plus, “misnomer” must mean something like a smart person’s word for “mistake” to the average* person.
*cf: Carlin, G.
A religious fundamentalist spouting his idiotic fundamentalism that has, surprise-surprise, no basis in fact.
No it isn’t. Fuck.
Lying hypocritical christian, just like jesus taught them to be.
Oh wait, jesus never existed. Whoops.
