• GrayoxOP
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      1 year ago

      Yes to the ruling class they are.

      • pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe
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        1 year ago

        Bro, it literally doesn’t matter because both MAGA and the ruling class are the two major hurdles for the left.

        Take the ruling class out and the left and the right will still go to war against each other.

        It’s not the ruling class making them fight. They’re choosing to fight with each other, and scapegoating the situation on the ruling class is a factually incorrect thing to do.

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          1 year ago

          You are not entirely wrong, but it is the conditions that the ruling class created that lead to their systemic disenfranchisement from the political systems in America resulting in the left versus right dichotomy.

          My whole point and goal with the leftist agiprop I post is to prevent a war between left v right by showing the hypocrisy of the lies the right has entrenched themselves in. I dont want any war but class war and that cant be won in America without left and right reconciling as comrades against the ruling class.

          Saying that the ruling class hasn’t stoked yhe left v right culture war is also factually incorrect. The Maga movements figure head is literally a Landlord, the Koch Brothers fund countless rightwing think tanks and media organizations that actively push a culture war narrative. They are actively waging a class war in America against the Middle and lower class because they cant exist without robbing the value of their labor, and they will do ANYTHING to prevent class conciousness from forming on US soil.

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            1 year ago

            Honestly, I used to feel the same way until I saw what MAGA and the right are really about – genocide, and because of that, it’s impossible for the U.S. left and right to reconcile.

            Like I get why people want that – we really should just be Americans again – but the things the factions have done to each other, from the left supporting and helping the ruling class impose the lockdowns on everyone else which destabilized the U.S., to the centuries of racism and abuse the right and their ancestors have inflicted on everyone else, are too severe and too reprehensible for the sides to ethically reconcile.

            It’d be better if the left pushed to form an independent country, honestly. They almost did when western states threatened to secede from the U.S. because Trump wasn’t enforcing the lockdowns to the left’s liking. They could wield that power and do it again, and they’d be able to form a military and keep the MAGA cultists away from them, and if the right tries to commit genocide anyway, fight back.

            Doing that would also really, really fuck over the ruling class as most of their assets are in U.S. stocks, bonds and dollars which would collapse from such a thing happening, given there’d be no more U.S.

            That’s just how I feel on the matter given everything I’ve seen in my life, which is a lot. A lot more than anyone should fairly have to.

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        To all of us. They are exactly the same, having the same ideological faults and exactly the same moral deficiencies.