• statist43@feddit.de
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    But you need to think like this: Terrorist attack in 9/11: 3000 deaths Terrorist attack hamas: 1300 deaths

    Antiterrorist attack 9/11: ~180.000 deaths Antiterrorist attack Israel: 11.000 deaths

    So its still 5% of the deaths of 9/11 dont play down the human rights violations of the US because of 9/11…

      • statist43@feddit.de
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        Does it make it better that the US killed hundred of thousands in 20 years, than when killed in 2 years?

        Killed civillians are killed civillians, in a matter of 20 years or 2 this is irrelevant.

          • statist43@feddit.de
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            The US killed 20-30 times more in Irak and Afgahnistan. And I would say that 20 years of war is another horrifying factor.

            If you look at the rate than /month israel killed more.

            But even if you look /year the 9/11 war with 20,000-30,000 deaths ist still much more compared to 11,000 this year from israel…

            • BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              This year. It started in October. Using your numbers, they have done half a years worth of murder in about 12th of the time, even with the USA drone striking weddings. Ones horrific, the other is a genocide.

              This all started last month, not in January, we don’t know what the per year murder rate is but we can assume it would be around 132,000 if Israel continues the way they are currently.

              • statist43@feddit.de
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                Yeah, you could assume, there you are right. But it still didnt happen, I hope they will stop any second, but thats just wishful thinking.

                But just to see what the US did…

                Israel could go on for almost 3 years like this and would have the same death toll then the US because of 9/11.

                And thats sick. What the US did is sick, same as what Israel is doing now.

          • statist43@feddit.de
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            So you say 200,000-300,000 deaths in 20 years is better that 11,000 in one month?

            Wtf?

            I really dont fucking know how americans can justify bullshit like this.

            Its 20,000-30,000 dead people a year, I know its not like 11,000 in a month, but I really hope that israel is going to stop soon.

            • Madison420@lemmy.world
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              Do math. 200000÷20=10000 a year 833.3 repeating.

              300000÷30= 15000 a year or 1250 a month

              It is objective better.

              Your high of you think 10000 a month is better than 10000 a year.

              • statist43@feddit.de
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                I never said better. Its fucked up compared to really fucked up.

                You keep justifying the USs shit to feel better? The same thing are the Israelis doing probably.

                Nobody wants to be the Genocide maker.

                Keep on living your life, thinking that the US killing civillians is somehow better than Israel killing civillians.

                I did the math, few comments above.

                When Israel goes on like this they will have 130,000 deaths per year, so they could go on for 3 years and be up with the same numbers as the US after 9/11.

                Its just faster, and would be horrible. So I just hope the killing will end soon, and that you see then how fucked up the US strategy after 9/11 was. Israel uses the same argument as the US.

                • Madison420@lemmy.world
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                  Survey says:?

                  So you say 200,000-300,000 deaths in 20 years is better that 11,000 in one month?

                  I didn’t say either was morally correct but one is clearly statistically worse as a matter of casualties. Why you think that’s attempting justifying either is beyond me and perhaps something you aught to reflect on personally.

                  Correct.

                  I never said anything about it’s morality but causing a years worth of deaths in Afghanistan/Iraq in a single month with the vast majority being non combatants and over a third being non military aged children.

                  Perhaps you did, I didn’t see it but you certainly haven’t reflected on it if you think your argument is sound.

                  That would be more deaths bud.

                  Oh “it’s just faster” gotcha. Industrialized murder is somehow more ethically sound to you, gotcha.