• SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world
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    Wow the lengths commies go to deny actual genocide.

    We all know communism is an ideology strictly for the uneducated and violent, why try so hard to make it seem like something else? The countless sexual and ethnic minorities murdered by communism due to its inherent hateful nature is something only the nazis on the other end of the fascism-spectrum rivaled.

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      The lengths liberals will to go to buy into fascist atrocity propaganda that was used as justification for the mass slaughter of Jewish people by nazis and nazi collaborators

      The countless sexual and ethnic minorities murdered by communism due to its inherent hateful nature is something only the nazis on the other end of the fascism-spectrum rivaled.

      You’re literally doing fascist propaganda. Here is a liberal Jewish holocaust historian and activist writing on it:

      https://jewishcurrents.org/the-double-genocide-theory

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        Fascists kill minorities, wow, who would’ve thought. It’s amazing how many commies pretend to label themselves as anti racist and pro trans rights, yet just so happen to advocate for an ideology based on murdering people on the basis of their ethnicity and sexual/gender orientation. Coincidence don’t you think?

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          Communist countries have historically been less violent to minorities than bourgeois democracies.

          Also read the fucking Jewish holocaust scholar’s writing and absorb it for a second.

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            Communist countries have historically been less violent to minorities than bourgeois democracies.

            This is simply not true. Every communist regime in history has started off with a systematic slaughter of minorities.

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              Started off? Which minority was slaughtered in Cuba? What about Korea? How about Afghanistan? China? Vietnam? The USSR? I mean at the start. The USSR did do some legitimately bad things to minorities (particularly German, polish, and Korean) in the lead up to and during ww2) but that was later on and those paled in comparison to the crimes of their capitalist contemporaries.

              I think you’re talking out your ass.

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                Please read upon actual history before pretending to know any of it. Every nation you mentioned slaughtered their minorities, it is intrinsic to the ideology, a core foundation. Communism without unchecked violence, aggression and ethnic cleansing isn’t communism.

                Also loving the token Whataboutism™ at the end, sign of a true tankie lmao, y-y-yes all communist nations have cleaned off their trans folk b-b-but there are some liberal nations too that did it, even though liberalism is the only ideology that has the capability to support a non-violent society lmao get fucked transphobe.

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                  Please read upon actual history before pretending to know any of it.

                  Could you give me a recommendation on history books that go over the slaughter of minorities in Cuba, Vietnam, and Korea then? Since you know so much about it.

                  Oh, that is what I thought. Have you considered actually talking to Cubans, either people who live there or cuban immigrants who arent aggrieved about their grandpa’s plantation?

                  Communism without unchecked violence, aggression and ethnic cleansing isn’t communism.

                  Fuck I gotta tell my local commune that they aren’t really communist

                  Also loving the token Whataboutism™

                  Fallacy fallacy. If we are judging ideologies on how many atrocities they commit, you have to judge them against other ideologies.

                  even though liberalism is the only ideology that has the capability to support a non-violent society

                  Lol 20 million people die a year of starvation or lack of clean water under liberal hegemony.

                  The archetypal liberal state shoots thousands of black men a year, and creates conditions that mean 40 percent of homeless youth are lgbt. It has the largest prison system in history, and has killed millions of civilians in wars of aggression over the last 20 years. You’re projecting the crimes of capitalism onto communism, consider criticizing communism for what it actually did wrong.