- cross-posted to:
- health@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- health@lemmy.world
After confirming the presence of highly pathogenic avian flu in a flock of chickens, nearly 48,000 birds were killed at a north Alabama farm, state agriculture officials said.
A Marshall County commercial pullet farm — one that raises chicks from hatching until they are ready to produce eggs when they are moved to a laying barn — was placed under quarantine after samples were confirmed positive for HPAI, the Alabama Department of Agriculture & Industries announced Friday.
HPAI is highly contagious to birds but considered low risk to humans and the virus is not considered a threat to food safety, the department said.
Friendly reminder that lab grown meat is 10-20 years away from being affordable and then we don’t have to deal with this shit happening every few months
Vertical farmed lettuce had an outbreak of ecoli three times in the past year. These people care about profits, not safety.
And you know where that E. coli comes from, right? It’s when farms put cattle too close to their lettuce (this is shockingly common) and the E. coli goes from the cattle shit and washes down to the irrigation system, which goes to the lettuce. My understanding is this still happens due to how the irrigation/water systems work for hydroponic stuff.
Not sure if you’re agreeing with me or you were trying to point out a flaw, but it’s still all caused by animal ag being shitty.
EColi lives everywhere. It’s in your house. Your bathroom. It’s literally in the root vegetables you eat. That’s why you boil them. It’s impossible to have a truly clean food product is my point.
But the example you cited is due to animals is my point. Which you don’t have in a lab
Your assumption is that animals contaminate. That is not the the case. It’s a naturally occurring thing that pretty much lives everywhere. Not exclusive to animals vs plants.
It literally is the case lol. It’s really not hard to google this
What about carrots, onions, etc?
Not for or against this, but also food processing plants, where stuff like lettuce gets rinsed- those rinsing machines can get e.coli in them, contaminating otherwise clean produce. Even shit like dry cereals can get salmonella in them. When it comes to peeled stuff, you are pretty safe. Hard fruits and vegetables can be washed with soap and water if not cooked. But some stuff can’t be washed with soap. That’s where you can run into trouble.
I wish there was better food and cleaning standards.
Many folks could reduce meat consumption now as well to mitigate the damages.
Americans have developed a norm of every meal needing meat, when for much of history it was a few times per week.
Yeah…no. not in this case. For one, chicken is way cheaper and quicker to grow than pork or beef, and especially in this particular case, these birds were raised for egg laying. You aren’t lab growing anything anytime soon that you can go buy for 97 cents a dozen.
Where do you live that a dozen eggs cost less than a dollar?
Mid missouri. There’s egg farms right around here so farm to grocery store is like a 30 minute drive. Got a few 18 packs on sale for 99 cents a piece like a month ago.
Not with the way US farm subsidies exist now, you’re right
Have you ever pet a chicken?
Yes
And yet you still choose to murder her, mutilate her corpse, and eat her flesh.
That’s fucked up dude. Chickens are friends, you don’t need to hurt them.
I also had a pet mouse and a pet rabbit when I was a kid, but hundreds are killed every time a field gets plowed up for crops. The lettuce, corn, rice, and wheat you eat all caused large amounts of small animals and birds to die.
At least when you eat meat you know it died quickly and got to grow up first. It wasn’t a group of half ran over baby rabbits out in a field.
Yes and we should reduce that too! Industrial agriculture has huge problems that needs to be addressed, that’s not an excuse to scoop up those baby rabbits and eat their corpses.
Just as many animals die for your lettuce as for mine, but you then go on to kill even more animals to feed the animals that you also kill. You’re just increasing the amounts of death and suffering for no reason.
Grow up in what conditions?
And then a person had to kill it. Do you know what that does to people? Numerous studies have found direct links between slaughter houses and substance abuse, domestic abuse, suicide, violent crime, higher rates of depression and anxiety, and PTSD.
At least no one kills themselves because they drove a tractor over a rabbit family - chances are they never even notice.
You can also go vegan right now. Every person that goes vegan saves hundreds of animals a year.
Not really. They just save the bigger/cuter ones. Thousands of mice, voles, moles, birds, rabbits, etc die from plowing up all the fields and machine gathering crops. Farming plants still kills lots of animals. Just not cows pigs and chickens.
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That’s true of the crops for animal feed, but then one cow will provide over 1,000 meals worth of food, as well as feeding everyone’s pet dogs and cats.
I’m thinking the difference in death tolls between natural omnivores compared to vegans is closer than you think.
Still a net reduction though, a lot of those crops go to feed cows, pigs and chickens so if you remove that step and just eat the crops far fewer animals get killed
Sure (maybe. Cows raised mainly on pasture grass might not actually cause that), but the point I’m more trying to make is that it’s dumb for a vegan/vegetarian to act like they aren’t killing animals so they can eat. One cows life can provide 1000 meals worth of meat. How many small animals died to get 1000 meals worth of salads, because I’m willing to bet it’s more than just 1.
You still farm crops to feed cows and pigs… You actually farm way less just to feed a human. So either way you’re still killing less animals over all. And there are also study’s showing the vast majority of field animals run to the edges of the field when the combines come.
Too many nut allergies. Unfortunately some of us won’t be able to go Vegan with the way the ingredient lists on a lot of Vegan options read.
It would be great.
there are tons of options. Im vegan and nut and soy free because my roommate is allergic to nuts and soy among other things.
We eat all kinds of beans and legumes and other sources of protein.