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    • TeezyZeezy@lemmygrad.ml
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      2 years ago

      Why? What’s the reason for doing that?

      I’m not disagreeing I just can’t think of why they would do that

      • relay@lemmygrad.ml
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        1 UFO’s are often found around US bases 2 These might be some sort of secret technology like ball lightning weather control, but the stories around them mystify and distract from people focusing on their real enemies. 3 This distraction might prove more useful for creating a compliant public than whatever military uses they initially thought they had.

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          Not weather control but weather balloons. The US has known for a long time the kinds of military advantage that weather balloons provide; they just can’t figure out the technology. The public is only just starting to learn what the Pentagon had kept fearfully secret.

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        I’ll tell you some of the clues

        Aliens end up as a part of interconnected nazi conspiracy theories. Peddling bs makes it easy to drive those narratives.

        Recently there has been a pivot in the UFO community from distrust of the government to quickly appealing to the military’s authority to support the navy’s recent release of UFO footage/accounts. To me this is both naive and suspicious because somehow it’s never considered that the US navy would or even could lie or that the government isn’t trying to cover up aliens (life outside of earth has been incorrectly announced 3 times, recently by Bill Clinton so idk why people think the government is lying about aliens when they want to announce so bad).

        Let’s also not forget the relationship between John Podesta and Tom DeLong (yes from blink 182) that was exposed in John Podesta’s wiki leaked emails. I think they use the narrative as a grift to rake in quick cash and utilize celebrities to do it. At the same time they can increase engagement with UFO bs.

        I also kind of believe that some politicians and MIC officials are true believers or present themselves as believers.

        But here is the real shit. Astronomy is married to the MIC. It is a technologically driven field, so most people don’t see that it is a problem. But the truth is science is hijacked by capital, it an enterprise. Increasing interest in space by spreading UFO bs is a way to justify the next government contracted, overpriced mega instrament. It increases interest in oligarchs and their insipid and foolish “dreams” of colonizing Mars, laying the foundation for Space Force and so on.

        I also think Aliens have a special role in the mind. They are used to justify the same racist theories about the world that the British Empire’s geographers believed, that Joseph Smith believed, that Indigenous populations had to have been preceeded or greatly aided by a superior race that has disappeared because there is no way they could have built pyramids, mounds, or other impressive marks of “civilization.”

        And now my hottest take:

        Aliens and the prospect of a spacefaring civilization fully justifies colonialism. To understand this you must know the direct connection between euro colonialism and climate change and then further their connections to our branded “dreams” of leaving earth or exploring the stars.

        Climate change is the ultimate macro level blowback from the social and environmental destruction that colonialism, driven by capital, has brought. To believe that we can render Earth as redundant by reaching the stars and escaping blowback from colonialism is the ultimate justification for the capitalist class and their genocidal methods. When we believe in aliens we believe in ourselves in space. People try to shy away from this by claiming that aliens could be any biology, but forget that the idea of civilization and technology as we know it is not only deeply anthropocentric but is an extension of the enlightenment thinking that has traditionally justified colonialism and led us to hell. Maintaining belief in aliens is like putting grease on the wheels to keep the train to apocalypse rolling, and the death cult of capital satisfied. Thus, spreading UFO bs could be seen as a clever ruse by the powerful.

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        UFO’s in the Cold War were practically all just prototype jet aircraft or high altitude surveillance planes/satellites. Of course the government can’t just come out and say that because of the Soviet Union, so they created weird conspiracy theories about aliens to throw everyone off track, and make anyone who talks about the unidentified craft look like lunatics.