I have seen at least two pictures of Hamas militants with what were identified as North Korean made RPGs. I think they’re able to get supplies into Gaza the same way Hamas gets other supplies in.
Conflict zones like the middle east are hot markets for arms dealers and surplus materiel tend to accumulate there. I doubt there’s any direct conduit between the two countries though
Identified by whom? The same folks that gave us “40 decapitated babies”, “they bombed their own hospital”, and “we did DNA testing on a random skull fragment to confirm Hamas killed Shani Nicole Louk”?
I think they’re able to get supplies into Gaza the same way Hamas gets other supplies in.
The Hamas group has a (likely entirely overstated) tunnel network across borders and a (likely entirely overstated) Mediterranean smuggling operation. That gets you a very limited set of imports from Egypt and perhaps Lebanon, Syria, Cyprus, or Turkey if they can really stretch it without the IDF noticing. None of these countries are doing regular direct trade with a small largely agrarian country on the opposite side of Asia. Nothing from North Korea is getting through the Suez Canal, nevermind it getting packed in across the entire length of Russia. Certainly not a militia’s worth of rocket propelled grenades. Come the fuck on.
This shit is almost certainly all home grown. From Egypt or Syria? Very likely. Robbed from the Israelis? Definitely possible. Brought in from Iraq? Sure. Brought in from Iran? Maybe. Brought in from Ukraine? Not outside the bounds of possibility. Brought in from the opposite side of the hemisphere? Give me a fucking break. Might as well claim they’re receiving arms from Haiti or Nunavut.
real north korean arms are in the levant from when the USSR facilitated them sending arms there, it’s not at all unbelievable they’re genuine but a bit beyond the pale to suggest korea specifically shipped it to Hamas recently. the news mega is a little weird about id’ing weapon provenance and extrapolating direct shipments/support when even iranian weapons are very likely mostly from middle men procuring them from the direct support iran gives iraqi groups or hezbollah
You don’t have to be an expert on arms trade to know that two countries under intense surveillance and at vast distances will have a very difficult time conducting an arms trade.
“How could this be possible?” isn’t a question anyone seems capable of seriously answering.
People have literally answered you, and you would probably get even better engagement asking the question straightforwardly, instead of rhetorically, trying to insist that it isn’t happening based on vibes.
How is the DPRK smuggling this shit in? What is that supply line even supposed to look like?
Back in 2010, a bunch of Turkish activists tried to send a flotilla to Gaza. They were intercepted and attacked by Israeli forces. That was before the renewed Israeli conflict with Lebanon and the US bombing of Syria, and when the southern border with Egypt wasn’t sealed shut. You can’t just move in and out of Gaza unmolested. No more than you could take a sailboat to Cuba.
How the fuck is the DPRK getting hundreds of rounds of munitions into a country that struggles to keep itself fed? This seems like a huge stretch to simply take at face value.
Russia ships to domestic and regional arms dealers
Arms dealers smuggle their weapons into Palestine
Turkey, Syria, and Egypt are all next to Israel. There are people there who have sympathies with Palestine but not Russia/NK, or with both Palestine and Russia/NK, or with none of them and want a paycheck. The underworld is full of strange bedfellows. The CIA and MI5/6 were once filled with communists.
There are also reports that some IDF units have been smuggling weapons to Hamas as well. If you’re lucky to turn a border guard or someone else critical to the supply chain, you can pass through undetected.
Even without Chinese support NK can probably smuggle things into China. Israel and the US does not have any ability to monitor every shipment from China to Egypt directly, let alone all goods going through the suez canal. There’s definitely tunnels from Gaza to Egypt.
I have seen at least two pictures of Hamas militants with what were identified as North Korean made RPGs. I think they’re able to get supplies into Gaza the same way Hamas gets other supplies in.
Conflict zones like the middle east are hot markets for arms dealers and surplus materiel tend to accumulate there. I doubt there’s any direct conduit between the two countries though
Identified by whom? The same folks that gave us “40 decapitated babies”, “they bombed their own hospital”, and “we did DNA testing on a random skull fragment to confirm Hamas killed Shani Nicole Louk”?
The Hamas group has a (likely entirely overstated) tunnel network across borders and a (likely entirely overstated) Mediterranean smuggling operation. That gets you a very limited set of imports from Egypt and perhaps Lebanon, Syria, Cyprus, or Turkey if they can really stretch it without the IDF noticing. None of these countries are doing regular direct trade with a small largely agrarian country on the opposite side of Asia. Nothing from North Korea is getting through the Suez Canal, nevermind it getting packed in across the entire length of Russia. Certainly not a militia’s worth of rocket propelled grenades. Come the fuck on.
This shit is almost certainly all home grown. From Egypt or Syria? Very likely. Robbed from the Israelis? Definitely possible. Brought in from Iraq? Sure. Brought in from Iran? Maybe. Brought in from Ukraine? Not outside the bounds of possibility. Brought in from the opposite side of the hemisphere? Give me a fucking break. Might as well claim they’re receiving arms from Haiti or Nunavut.
real north korean arms are in the levant from when the USSR facilitated them sending arms there, it’s not at all unbelievable they’re genuine but a bit beyond the pale to suggest korea specifically shipped it to Hamas recently. the news mega is a little weird about id’ing weapon provenance and extrapolating direct shipments/support when even iranian weapons are very likely mostly from middle men procuring them from the direct support iran gives iraqi groups or hezbollah
No, the identification was not produced by the IOF, but other users in the news mega. Anyway you’re clearly an expert so I’ll defer to you.
You don’t have to be an expert on arms trade to know that two countries under intense surveillance and at vast distances will have a very difficult time conducting an arms trade.
“How could this be possible?” isn’t a question anyone seems capable of seriously answering.
People have literally answered you, and you would probably get even better engagement asking the question straightforwardly, instead of rhetorically, trying to insist that it isn’t happening based on vibes.
NK -> China -> Ship to Egypt -> Tunnel to Gaza
Or NK -> Russia -> Syria -> Lebanese Hezbollah -> Gaza
What’s israel gonna do, inspect every piece of cargo from China that goes through the suez canal?
Dude DPRK has been involved in materially supporting Palestine for decades. You are not adequately informed here to speak so confidently
How is the DPRK smuggling this shit in? What is that supply line even supposed to look like?
Back in 2010, a bunch of Turkish activists tried to send a flotilla to Gaza. They were intercepted and attacked by Israeli forces. That was before the renewed Israeli conflict with Lebanon and the US bombing of Syria, and when the southern border with Egypt wasn’t sealed shut. You can’t just move in and out of Gaza unmolested. No more than you could take a sailboat to Cuba.
How the fuck is the DPRK getting hundreds of rounds of munitions into a country that struggles to keep itself fed? This seems like a huge stretch to simply take at face value.
DPRK: We are materially supporting Palestinian resistance
Hamas: We receive material support from DPRK
Palestinian Protesters: Holding up signs of KJU and Putin
Western Media: North Korea is arming Hamas
You: But HOW COULD IT BE??!
you could explain how international arms smuggling works and be a snarky shit at the same time
How am I supposed to know about international arm smuggling routes? This user doesn’t either. All parties involved agree it’s happening
North Korean ships to Russia
Russia ships to domestic and regional arms dealers
Arms dealers smuggle their weapons into Palestine
Turkey, Syria, and Egypt are all next to Israel. There are people there who have sympathies with Palestine but not Russia/NK, or with both Palestine and Russia/NK, or with none of them and want a paycheck. The underworld is full of strange bedfellows. The CIA and MI5/6 were once filled with communists.
There are also reports that some IDF units have been smuggling weapons to Hamas as well. If you’re lucky to turn a border guard or someone else critical to the supply chain, you can pass through undetected.
NK -> China -> Egypt -> Gaza
Even without Chinese support NK can probably smuggle things into China. Israel and the US does not have any ability to monitor every shipment from China to Egypt directly, let alone all goods going through the suez canal. There’s definitely tunnels from Gaza to Egypt.