Hamas has spent years stockpiling desperately needed fuel, food and medicine, as well as ammo and weapons, in the miles of tunnels it has carved out under Gaza.

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    If Hamas had operated strictly & solely against Israeli military units & installations on 10/7/23 and left civilians the hell alone, we wouldn’t have to be here.

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      Hamas has never focused on military targets. Their founding charter specifically calls for the death of all Jews worldwide and forbids any conception of peace.

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        Americans really shouldn’t be judging other groups by their founding charters 🤨

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      How many civilians are you personally comfortable with dying, past those already dead. No “they’re in the way” bullshit. Give your conscience a number.

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        Comfortable with? Zero. None of this is comfortable. Nobody is happy right now. It’s not like 10/7, when people went around rejoicing in Jewish suffering—now that the war is on, everybody is upset.

        I’ve yet to hear a serious alternative.

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      Hamas was just following the rules of warfare that the IDF established. It’s sad that IDF reservists and veterans in the kibbutz used their own families as human shields, but Israel has made it very clear that they believe in killing human shields and the world supports them for it.

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            What does Arabic have to do with the source you posted?

            You know that language wasn’t Arabic, right?

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                I can’t believe you’re still acting like you have moral superiority here lol

                “OK, fine - I made up my whole argument, but you’re probably lying too! Afterall, it’s what I’d do!”

                I mean jeez, if you’re going to lie through your teeth about something to try and support some made up point, at least take the 5 seconds to do find out what it is you’re lying about

                Edit: lol, he blocked me - what a tool

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                What? I don’t speak enough Hebrew to understand her interview in Hebrew, which is why I provided her testimony in English, which you can understand without a need of a Translation, and which also addressed your confused question of why Western media wasn’t reporting on it—it was.

                And then you went on to tell the stupidest fucking lie in this thread.

                So what are you removed about?

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              I saw the CNN interview. She didn’t mention the Israeli troops murdering civilians. The interview was with an Israeli radio station and reported on by Haaretz, which is a well known Israeli newspaper.

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                I cannot find any sign of Yasmin Porat’s name on Haaretz, at least not in their English site. Can you link to the report you’re talking about?

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                  Sorry, Haaretz wasn’t her, it was a guy named Tuval, but is in Hebrew. He said:

                  Haaretz reports: “According to him [Tuval], only on Monday night and only after the commanders in the field made difficult decisions – including shelling houses with all their occupants inside in order to eliminate the terrorists along with the hostages – did the IDF [Israeli army] complete the takeover of the kibbutz. The price was terrible: at least 112 Be’eri people were killed. Others were kidnapped. Yesterday, 11 days after the massacre, the bodies of a mother and her son were discovered in one of the destroyed houses. It is believed that more bodies are still lying in the rubble.”

                  Jacobin article about Yasmin Porat. But again, that references the radio interview, which has been removed since. This is not a hill I’m willing to die on. With scant sources that reference each other and censoring, take this account with skepticism.